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Budget point and shoot

Postposted on Sun May 18, 2014 11:22 pm

I know there are a lot of very knowledgeable people here that aren't super uppity about camera stuff so I thought this would be a good venue to ask.

I don't know a ton about cameras, but I know enough to limp through a conversation if we're having one. My brother has a nice, expensive SLR setup which takes great photos, but I just want something to take nice pictures when I'm at a concert or out with friends whatever... Below is a list of stuff I'd like to constrain to and was hoping for suggestions, whether it be models or features.

I want:
compact - like fit in my pocket, if possible
~200 USD or less
image quality - just something to be proud of to show other people
easy transfer between camera and PC/phone

optional:
low light performance
wifi

don't care about:
touchscreen
screen resolution (as long as I can see if taken photos are okay)
RAW

I really appreciate all the help, in advance
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Re: Budget point and shoot

Postposted on Sun May 18, 2014 11:31 pm

Budget point and shoot cameras are disappearing from the market because smartphone cameras now take pictures of comparable quality. If you need higher quality, you get a DSLR. If you don't need DSLR-level quality, pics from a recent phone are generally good enough.
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Re: Budget point and shoot

Postposted on Mon May 19, 2014 12:02 am

just brew it! wrote:Budget point and shoot cameras are disappearing from the market because smartphone cameras now take pictures of comparable quality. If you need higher quality, you get a DSLR. If you don't need DSLR-level quality, pics from a recent phone are generally good enough.


The '$200 or less' requirement pretty much absolves any hope of a decent ILC. Best bet would be to find one of Canon's S-series (S110, S120) refurbished, used, or on sale.
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Re: Budget point and shoot

Postposted on Mon May 19, 2014 12:54 am

Airmantharp wrote:The '$200 or less' requirement pretty much absolves any hope of a decent ILC. Best bet would be to find one of Canon's S-series (S110, S120) refurbished, used, or on sale.


That's fine. I don't want to have to fuss with different lenses. While I appreciate that's the best way to get exactly what you need for the shot, I just don't want to have to do it. I also have no qualms with getting something refurbished, if that's what it takes.

I can spend more, I just feel like 200 bucks should get you something that can take decent photos.
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Re: Budget point and shoot

Postposted on Mon May 19, 2014 1:11 am

DancinJack wrote:
Airmantharp wrote:The '$200 or less' requirement pretty much absolves any hope of a decent ILC. Best bet would be to find one of Canon's S-series (S110, S120) refurbished, used, or on sale.


That's fine. I don't want to have to fuss with different lenses. While I appreciate that's the best way to get exactly what you need for the shot, I just don't want to have to do it. I also have no qualms with getting something refurbished, if that's what it takes.

I can spend more, I just feel like 200 bucks should get you something that can take decent photos.


A phone can take decent photos- a $50 compact with a zoom lets you zoom. Unless you're willing to pay up for an S-series, spending more than $50 either gets you more zoom or a smaller camera, like Canon's ELPHs.

A word on sensor sizes- every basic P&S has a 1/2.3" sensor. The next step up is the 1/1.7" sensor found in some higher-end models like the S-series and Canon's G16, which is larger and has manual controls. Above that is the 1" cameras like the Sony RX100/RX10 and Nikon's 1 system, which has interchangeable lenses.

At best, while keeping a decent budget, reaching for the 1/1.7"-sensor cameras is worth the cost. Just have to catch them on sale.
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Re: Budget point and shoot

Postposted on Mon May 19, 2014 2:15 am

It's not quite within your price range but the $250 Canon S110 is going to be the best value choice for a point and shoot--anything less isn't going to be worth it relative to a smartphone. You could also check your local camera shop for a used/refurb camera. I got an S90 for $180 by doing that, it even came with an underwater case that's worth more than I paid for the camera. I posted some night shots with "auto" settings and no tripod in the photo thread, that should give some indication of how an S-series performs in the hands of a novice photographer.
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Re: Budget point and shoot

Postposted on Mon May 19, 2014 4:57 am

My advice would be to look for one of these cameras on sale.
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Re: Budget point and shoot

Postposted on Mon May 19, 2014 5:26 am

The $249 (white) or $249 (black) or $249 (silver) PowerShot S110 recommended by previous gerbils seems to hit all of your requirements except for the list price.

The PowerShot S110's 1/1.7" sensor and 5.2-26mm f/2.0-5.9 large aperture lens have better low light sensitivity than the 1/2.3" sensor and small aperture lenses found in less expensive cameras or the tiny 1/3.2" sensor used in smartphone cameras like the iPhone 5. It has become much more difficult to catch PowerShot cameras on sale recently because Canon has cracked down on discounting by their authorized dealers. Some dealers are getting around Canon's pricing constraints by advertising new-in-box cameras as "refurbished". The PowerShot S110 is available for $197-ish under those conditions. For unknown reasons, the silver version tends to be available for the lowest prices.
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