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Article Idea Ivy bridge cooler Shootout

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:34 am
by vargis14
With IVYs Idle and OC temps much higher then sandy. I think a article testing many of the most popular heatsinks on IVY bridge to find out what types of sinks work best with its small die area.
Just a suggestion, I am sure tons of people who waited for ivy will want to know what type of cooler will be best for them.
Cheers

Re: Article Idea Ivy bridge cooler Shootout

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:17 am
by Left_SHifted
Idea enthusiastically seconded :D

Re: Article Idea Ivy bridge cooler Shootout

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:23 am
by gbcrush
I'm not even building Ivy, and I agree!

Re: Article Idea Ivy bridge cooler Shootout

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:24 am
by Captain Ned
Crowdsource it, people. Don't forget to post your ambient room temp as well.

Re: Article Idea Ivy bridge cooler Shootout

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:04 am
by glacius555
I'd recommend to buy used Noctua coolers from 1366 era.

Re: Article Idea Ivy bridge cooler Shootout

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:23 am
by Firestarter
gbcrush wrote:
I'm not even building Ivy, and I agree!

This! I'm curious :)

Re: Article Idea Ivy bridge cooler Shootout

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:35 am
by flip-mode
It's a great idea; the same thought had already crossed my mind. You all should probably suggest some coolers too.

Re: Article Idea Ivy bridge cooler Shootout

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:01 pm
by integer
A vote from me as well. Am looking to put together an Ivy Bridge build soon, and would like to know how the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo holds up.

Re: Article Idea Ivy bridge cooler Shootout

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:58 am
by vargis14
Interger i imagine the evo 212 from CM might be one of the better performers with its tightly packed direct touch heatpipes but thats just a theory of mine.....i think the trick to cooling there monolith shaped dies will be mounting the cooler so as many heatpipes as possible cover the cpu die itself under the protective cover.
Hummm wonder how cool it would run if you took off the die /integrated heasink and put a cooler directly on the naked/nude die itself.
Like the old AMD k7 barton cores or the pentuim m .
Just think of that integrated heatsink as a bra covering up something beautiful and rip it off,Just remember the bra is much bigger then the boobs and intel stuffed it.
Too Bad i cannot participate stupid 1.5 year old sandy bridge is too valuable to me,I mean when is the last time a cpu that old still is in the top 5% in terms of 4 core performance.But i do want to play with some poison ivy.
Heck speaking of poison ivy,i hate it!!!!! My wife is immune,me i go deer hunting the monday after thanksgiving 6 inches of snow on the ground and i still got poison ivy.....the oils from the plant can stick around for a while.Add dragging a deer for 4 hrs in a tee shirt and long john bottoms,sweating a lot and slipping and falling about 50 times since the deer weighted 195lbs dressed 10Lbs more then me at the time....i gained about 40lbs since that poison ivy deal 6 years ago.But i always look out for that evil plant Me Hates IT :evil:

Re: Article Idea Ivy bridge cooler Shootout

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:42 am
by Ifalna
Hummm wonder how cool it would run if you took off the die /integrated heasink and put a cooler directly on the naked/nude die itself.
Like the old AMD k7 barton cores or the pentuim m .


Ugh.. please don't go back there... I actually enjoy mounting HS on CPUs with Spreader. So much safer... besides: Intel engineers aren't stupid people. They'll see to it that the heat transfer from DIE -> Spreader is more efficient compared to the transfer from DIE -> cooler.

Re: Article Idea Ivy bridge cooler Shootout

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:35 am
by vargis14
Sure its dangerous,but i am curious to know how it would work to have a heatsink directly on the die.
I wonder if a small vapor chamber could somehow be incorporated into the integrated die cover.Instead of that grey silicone type goop taking up most of the space under the spreader.
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" besides: Intel engineers aren't stupid people. They'll see to it that the heat transfer from DIE -> Spreader is more efficient compared to the transfer from DIE -> cooler."

I think intel does it more for protecting the cpu die itself,as for the Spreader being more efficient I do not know about that,but it is does protect the die and thats pretty much all that needs to be cooled,you never see any of the transistors on the backside of a cpu that are confined to a small airspace with no ventilation whatsoever fall off or burn up.

Would someone with a extra 3770k or even a 2600k please try removing the protective spreader please and report your results:)

Re: Article Idea Ivy bridge cooler Shootout

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:46 am
by yogibbear
I want this too. Will need to finish my Ivy build for Max Payne 3 texture beast. Tossing up between one of those Antec Kuhler's and a Thermaltake whatever (not the Frio, but the one before it that has better specs).

Would be good to know if any of the many popular coolers performs better at stock and for OCing.

Re: Article Idea Ivy bridge cooler Shootout

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:47 am
by yogibbear
vargis14 wrote:
Sure its dangerous,but i am curious to know how it would work to have a heatsink directly on the die.
I wonder if a small vapor chamber could somehow be incorporated into the integrated die cover.Instead of that grey silicone type goop taking up most of the space under the spreader.
QUOTE
" besides: Intel engineers aren't stupid people. They'll see to it that the heat transfer from DIE -> Spreader is more efficient compared to the transfer from DIE -> cooler."

I think intel does it more for protecting the cpu die itself,as for the Spreader being more efficient I do not know about that,but it is does protect the die and thats pretty much all that needs to be cooled,you never see any of the transistors on the backside of a cpu that are confined to a small airspace with no ventilation whatsoever fall off or burn up.

Would someone with a extra 3770k or even a 2600k please try removing the protective spreader please and report your results:)


I thought the whole point of the spreader is to get even contact. i.e. if you did it directly you'd get hotspots and then damage the cpu.

Re: Article Idea Ivy bridge cooler Shootout

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:53 am
by vargis14
The wafers naked cpu dies and AMDs naked gpus are made on are pretty smooth and mirror like.Perhaps a spacer around the edge of the dies like on amd GPUs or hard rubber stoppers on all 4 corners like the older amd barton cores would help protect the dies from misaligned mounting of heatsinks.
I did some googling on the subject and i found more bad experiences then good ones,all the bad ones were from damaging the die removing the IHS,the good ones showed a great improvement on a p4, 5600+ cpus,and a gtx480.
In my reading i also noticed intel got rid of the pin array since alot of people were bending pins and RMAing prossesors,I can understand that since i killed a am2 cpu by accidently bending a pin trying to upgrade the cpu on one of my dell HD zinos.Luckily it only cost me 20$
I conclude that the IHS on modern cpus does hinder cooling but only a little bit,without them i am sure dies would be cracking over 25% of the time.
But that does not cure my curiosity on how a naked cpu would fare.

Plus a Ivy Bridge Heatsink review is still in order and i trust no site but TR to do it correctly.

Re: Article Idea Ivy bridge cooler Shootout

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:05 am
by Ifalna
Plus a Ivy Bridge Heatsink review is still in order and i trust no site but TR to do it correctly.


Agreed. Though I'll probably happy with my shiny new D14.

It's weird how wide the gap between the measurements in between sites are. One would expect them to be closer.