Cooling my FX-8350

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Cooling my FX-8350

Postposted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:06 am

so i have an hyper 212(not the "+" edition the first one) lying around i was wondering if i should use it to cool my fx8350 or just buy the new revised edition
i cant seem to find any comparison
i have a 1500rpm 120mm fan on it
right now running on stock fan and man its wayy to loud
i was also looking for which thermal paste to get
CoolerMaster Thermal Compound IC Essential E2 - SR 60.00
CoolerMaster Thermal Compound IC Value V1 - SR 30.00
Antec Formula 7 Nano Diamond Thermal Compound - SR 90.00
Noctua Hybrid Thermal Compound 3G - SR 50.00
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$1=SR3.75

my ambient temp here is high in summer around 27-30
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Re: Cooling my FX-8350

Postposted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:27 am

well that 212 is going to be better than the standard one you're using at the moment so I'd just put it on and see how it goes.

As for paste, I doubt you'll see much difference between any of the ones you've listed. What's more critical than the paste itself is how well it's applied. You only need a tiny bit as it's job is to fill in the microscopic roughness left from the manufacturing process, it isn't supposed to sit there as a thick layer like cheese in a sandwich.
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Re: Cooling my FX-8350

Postposted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:36 am

The original hyper 212 can have some big a@@ gaps between the direct touch heatpipes. I would fill in any large gaps in the base of the hyper 212 heatpipes with paste....but do not goop it on, be surgical :)

Then I would put a very very thin layer on the cpu lid and try it out....sure is better then stock:)

BTW Coolermaster came out with with the 212....then improved it with the 212 + now they have a even better one the Hyper 212 EVO. They all shaved a degree or 2 off with each improved model.
The latest Hyper 212 EVO has no gaps in the heatpipes at all...the base is much more refined and they still cost around $30 If you think 2-5c difference in cooling power is worth 30$ for the latest 212 evo then by all means buy one. It will not break the bank and you will get paste with it that will work fine.

I almost forgot ...then you can use you original 212's fan to make a push pull setup.
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Re: Cooling my FX-8350

Postposted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:58 am

the original fan kinda died off due to way to much dust accumulation in roters i hav to chnage fans every 6-10 months (snadstorms :/) the case dosent have air filters either :( i clean it out as regularly as possible
but i might buy 2 new ones for my cpu cooler i was also thinking of passive since it is a big heatsink
what are your thoughts
i have great airflow in the case have 7 140mm fans up and running so thats not an issue

EDIT: ps the evo here is for 270SR which is like 72$
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Re: Cooling my FX-8350

Postposted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:03 am

killadark wrote:right now running on stock fan and man its wayy to loud

The stock fans on all AMD CPUs from the past ~3 years have been way too loud. I wish AMD CPUs were more widely available in OEM version (no HSF) these days, since I always end up just chucking the stock HSF in a drawer and putting an aftermarket cooler on. And in general I don't even overclock, so it's not like I actually need the extra cooling performance; I just need the extra quiet!

killadark wrote:the original fan kinda died off due to way to much dust accumulation in roters i hav to chnage fans every 6-10 months (snadstorms :/) the case dosent have air filters either :( i clean it out as regularly as possible
but i might buy 2 new ones for my cpu cooler i was also thinking of passive since it is a big heatsink
what are your thoughts
i have great airflow in the case have 7 140mm fans up and running so thats not an issue

I think you need to get a room air filter.

Passive is almost certainly not going to cut it on an FX-8350 with a heatsink that size. At least, not with any sort of load; you might get away with it if most of the cores are idling.
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Re: Cooling my FX-8350

Postposted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:05 am

The evo is 72$ yikers !! just use the 212 you have....Its so much better then the stock cooler. Plus i think you will be happy with its performance and sound compared to the stock sink you are using.

You can always buy almost any 120mm fan and mount it to your 212.
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Re: Cooling my FX-8350

Postposted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:21 am

vargis14 wrote:The original hyper 212 can have some big a@@ gaps between the direct touch heatpipes. I would fill in any large gaps in the base of the hyper 212 heatpipes with paste....but do not goop it on, be surgical :)
Then I would put a very very thin layer on the cpu lid and try it out....sure is better then stock:)
I almost forgot ...then you can use you original 212's fan to make a push pull setup.


ya i just noticed there is a big gap in one of the heatpipes never bothered to look but its clearly visible now will hav to put some paste in tere i suppose
and ya i do intend to do a push and pull but the thing is that the pull fan will be so close to my rear exaust fan that its practically unnecessary?
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Re: Cooling my FX-8350

Postposted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:10 pm

UPDATE:got the hyper 212 in and well its running much more silent
but temp still bother me almost no diff the idle temp is 40C and load in intel burn test was 64C which happens to be exactly the same temp it was with stock cooler
the cpu keeps throttling down to 3.4ghz at full load once in a while im not sure whats causing it im looking forward to overclocking it any suggestions are welcome
i have overclocked before its just the new UEFI bios is a bit unfamiliar although seems much more easier to use
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Re: Cooling my FX-8350

Postposted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:45 pm

What is the ambient temperature in the room the PC is in? If the room is too hot to start with there is not much you can do besides getting a better air cooler or AIO water loop.

Also make sure you are getting good contact between your 212 cooler and the CPU...if the paste is too thick or you are not getting enough contact pressure between the CPU and cooler both can make a big difference. By no means go and over tighten your cooler mount and break something:)

EDIT: if a pull fan will not fit do not worry about it. Also check to see if the heatsink is throwing off a decent amount of heat when loaded. Also try running the 212's fan at 100% if it is not already and see if that helps with temps. A 120mm fan at 100% is goin to be quieter then AMDs stock cooler at 100%.

With you mentioning dust storms perhaps a air conditioner is in order:)
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Re: Cooling my FX-8350

Postposted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:07 pm

Anything's better than the stock fan. When I bought my FX-8350 rig last December I was surprised when I first turned it on: it literally sounded like a small vacuum cleaner. I also noticed the temps seemed too low and jumping around like a crazy banana when I use third party apps such as CoreTemp, HWMonitor, OCCT, etc. (heck, even AMD's OWN OverDrive app couldn't read the temps properly!). Applying some quality TIM (CoolerMaster something) silenced the fans quite a bit, but I guess buying the Deepcool Gammaxx 400 was a great idea as the thing's as quiet as a tomb these days. Ambient temp is around 33C, for reference. Idle temp is around 42C, load at around 59C, I think. With the A/C on (brining ambient temp to around 18C), idle is 36C, load, not sure (i rarely max this thing out). Plus the crazy temp readings were all due to the third-party apps not properly interpreting the sensors. Using MSI's Control Center app showed me some proper, believable temps, so the sensors aren't busted as I initially thought.
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Re: Cooling my FX-8350

Postposted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:32 pm

well since the stock fan that came with the coller died of i replaced it with a chap TT 1500rpm fan with no fan speed control (molex power) it isint fast but is silent for sure
anyways i tried a bit of overclocking which well... was not a good idea temp. rocketed off to 85C on socket and 70C~on core then the pc shut down by itself this was at 4.4ghz with 1.35vcore
looks like i have to buy a new cooler for this hot chip

a pull fan is totally possible have the Xaser VI "supertower"(thats what they call it, it is very huge) but it just will sit so close to the exaust ill give it a try maby

im not sure on what my ambient is right now the AC is set on 21C but obviously it isint i can feel it. The room where my PC is isint exactly a room its a bit of an open space i do think its like 25-27ish

on other note i have noticed my voltages fluctuating i mean the 12v droping to 6v momentarily then asus gives an warning although it is very rare may be my PSU failing?
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Re: Cooling my FX-8350

Postposted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:22 pm

34 dollars. Free shipping. Much better than the 212 Plus. Easier to Install.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyp ... ds=212+evo

I have installed the Hyper 212 plus and Evo several times. Did you ever notice when you look for videos concerning installation, they never show the whole process in real time. Its always before and after shots. Go figure. The directions are incomplete imo. This is my method how to properly install the Evo. Your running a 8350, so you need your cooler to work at it's full potential. My Phenom II 965, 125 watt @ 3.8g never exceed 50C. My FX 6300 @ 95W, tops out at 42C on prime. This is assuming good air flow through the case, and using push and pull.

* The 212 Plus is a little different. The gaps on the heatsink should be filled in before applying paste. Not true with the Evo. The Evo has a smoother surface area vs the 212. Other than that, the same steps apply.

Here are my tips.

1.Use a green pea size drop right in the middle of the cpu. Actually, the size if a Nestles chocolate chip. Just a wee smaller than a pea. How do you know if you used the correct amount ? When paste is not leaking out the sides when you have it fully tightened down.That is very important.

2.I'm sure you noticed the the push pins on the bracket. There adjustable for different lengths. Make sure all 4 pins are on the middle setting.

3.VERY important. This is where people make mistakes. Never put the cooler on the cpu first, and then try to adjust the bracket, after the fact. Your cooler will slip and slide before you get it clamped down.

4.Put the bracket on the cooler, just like you would if it was fully assembled sitting on your board. With no paste on the cpu, do some dry runs. Don't touch the cpu, just go through the motions. This will help you adjust the bracket very close to the holes when it counts.

5.Put on the paste, and drop the cooler on the cpu evenly. Your bracket should already be lined up to your 4 mounting holes. Make sure your using a longer Phillips head screwdriver, as this helps. Notice the groove on the sides of the cooler. A longer phillips helps. Tighten each opposite corner a few turns, then the other opposite corners a few turns. Repeat until is is fully secure. After it feels tight. Give it an extra 1/4 turn.

6.The cooler can mount with fans facing front to back or top to bottom.Just in-case you didn't know.

Hope that helps. Good luck.
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Re: Cooling my FX-8350

Postposted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:22 pm

I just looked up that TT power supply....does it really have 4 12 volt rails??? YUCK!
Also i do not recall TT power supplies being very good at all.

Good power supplies have a single 12 volt rail like my Corsair 850tx has a 70 amp 12 volt rail. I could modify it to charge up 3 deep cell 12 volt deep cycle batteries in my fathers bass boat and it would be overkill. But i bet wit h 70 amps it could jump start a car and live;)

I am not saying you PSU is bad but if it is dropping to 6 volts it probably wont last long. Also crappy PSU can ruin a motherboard "and you have a expensive one" CPU and video card if it blows out the wrong way.
Since you probably moved that PSU from another Rig to this newer one i would look to get a new quality PSU since the CPU you have now is a power hog "overclocked you could pull 200+ watts just from the cpu!" and i do not know what kinda video card you are running.
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Re: Cooling my FX-8350

Postposted on Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:11 pm

vargis14 wrote:I just looked up that TT power supply....does it really have 4 12 volt rails??? YUCK!
Also i do not recall TT power supplies being very good at all.

Good power supplies have a single 12 volt rail like my Corsair 850tx has a 70 amp 12 volt rail. I could modify it to charge up 3 deep cell 12 volt deep cycle batteries in my fathers bass boat and it would be overkill. But i bet wit h 70 amps it could jump start a car and live;)

I am not saying you PSU is bad but if it is dropping to 6 volts it probably wont last long. Also crappy PSU can ruin a motherboard "and you have a expensive one" CPU and video card if it blows out the wrong way.
Since you probably moved that PSU from another Rig to this newer one i would look to get a new quality PSU since the CPU you have now is a power hog "overclocked you could pull 200+ watts just from the cpu!" and i do not know what kinda video card you are running.


it is a fairly old one 5yrs maby i guess ill have to change a lot of things i guess have been waiting out to change my aging 4870 on this till the 9 series amd came out guess ill jus buy a psu as well
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