Heavy System lags during heavy writes to the SSD

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Heavy System lags during heavy writes to the SSD

Postposted on Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:38 am

Specs:

    Athlon II X4 640 3 GHz
    Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3
    8 GB DDR3 RAM
    ASUS R9 270X
    Curcial M4 256GB (about 30 GB are free)
    2*2TB 3.5" WD Green
    1*2TB 3.5" Hitachi
    (all drives run in AHCI mode)
    Seasonic S12II 430W
    Windows 7 pro x64
I'm running this config with the SSD (sans the R9 270x) for about 2.5 Years now. In the last couple of months the issue of heavy system lags when a program is writing a lot of data (copying a large file or Installing a program) on to the SSD has developed. I first noticed it during steam game updates, the machine becomes nearly unusable (switching between browser tabs can take up to 10 seconds, starting a small program can take up to 5 Minutes switching between open program can take up to 10 seconds) Notice that I wrote can take up to X because the lag fluctuates during the write/install process and it can become so bad that even the cursor freezes.
    CPU Load seems okay never realy surpassing 40%
    Smart Values of the SSD are all good and at 100/of x
    TRIM and NCQ are active
    SSD hast he newest firmware and the board has the newest BIOS Version Drivers are up to date

Thanks for your Help!
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Re: Heavy System lags during heavy writes to the SSD

Postposted on Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:06 am

Can you run CrystalDiskInfo and post the SMART results from there? 2.5 years of use (with things like Steam games on it) might be increasing the write wears, so it'll be good to see that SMART data.

Also, can you run Resource Monitor during those periods (start it in advance) and monitor the disk queue length against the SSD? Ideally, those values should be < 1.
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Re: Heavy System lags during heavy writes to the SSD

Postposted on Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:50 am

Sure I can but i already had a look at the smart values and they are all very good with a minimal level of SSD wear
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CrystalDiskInfo 6.1.14 (C) 2008-2014 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : Im not allowd to post urls
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OS : Windows 7 Professional SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)
Date : 2014/07/31 11:47:24

-- Controller Map ----------------------------------------------------------
- ATA Channel 0 (0) [ATA]
+ AMD SATA Controller [ATA]
- M4-CT256 M4SSD2 SATA Disk Device
- Hitachi HDS5C3020ALA632 SATA Disk Device
- WDC WD20 EZRX-00DC0B0 SATA Disk Device
- WDC WD20 EARS-00MVWB0 SATA Disk Device
- HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS50 SATA CdRom Device
- ATA Channel 1 (1) [ATA]
- ATA Channel 0 (0) [ATA]
- ATA Channel 1 (1) [ATA]
+ Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller [ATA]
- ATA Channel 0 (0)
- ATA Channel 1 (1)
+ Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller [ATA]
- ATA Channel 0 (0)
- ATA Channel 1 (1)
+ ARJQ1W3Z IDE Controller [SCSI]
- TMFIPWT 1IZWPYBC9 SCSI CdRom Device

-- Disk List ---------------------------------------------------------------
(1) M4-CT256M4SSD2 : 256.0 GB [0/0/0, pd1] - mi
(2) Hitachi HDS5C3020ALA632 : 2000.3 GB [1/0/0, pd1]
(3) WDC WD20EZRX-00DC0B0 : 2000.3 GB [2/0/0, pd1] - wd
(4) WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0 : 2000.3 GB [3/0/0, pd1] - wd

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(1) M4-CT256M4SSD2
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Model : M4-CT256M4SSD2
Firmware : 0309
Serial Number : 000000001144031DD6A7
Disk Size : 256.0 GB (8.4/137.4/256.0/256.0)
Buffer Size : Unknown
Queue Depth : 32
# of Sectors : 500118192
Rotation Rate : ---- (SSD)
Interface : Serial ATA
Major Version : ACS-2
Minor Version : ATA8-ACS version 6
Transfer Mode : SATA/600 | SATA/600
Power On Hours : 7700 hours
Power On Count : 1636 count
Wear Level Count : 139
Temperature : Unknown
Health Status : Good (96 %)
Features : S.M.A.R.T., APM, 48bit LBA, NCQ, TRIM
APM Level : 00FEh [ON]
AAM Level : ----

-- S.M.A.R.T. --------------------------------------------------------------
ID Cur Wor Thr RawValues(6) Attribute Name
01 100 100 _50 000000000000 Raw Read Error Rate
05 100 100 _10 000000000000 Reallocated Sectors Count
09 100 100 __1 000000001E14 Power-On Hours
0C 100 100 __1 000000000664 Power Cycle Count
AA 100 100 _10 000000000000 Reserved Block Count
AB 100 100 __1 000000000000 Program Fail Count
AC 100 100 __1 000000000000 Erase Fail Count
AD _96 _96 _10 00000000008B Average Block-Erase Count
AE 100 100 __1 000000000000 Unexpected Power Loss Count
B5 100 100 __1 083E0232060C Unaligned Access Count
B7 100 100 __1 000000000000 SATA Interface Downshift
B8 100 100 _50 000000000000 Error Correction Count
BB 100 100 __1 000000000000 Reported Uncorrectable Errors
BC 100 100 __1 000000000000 Command Timeout Count
BD 100 100 __1 00000000005E Factory Bad Block Count
C2 100 100 __0 000000000000 Temperature
C3 100 100 __1 000000000000 Cumulative ECC Bit Correction Count
C4 100 100 __1 000000000000 Reallocation Event Count
C5 100 100 __1 000000000000 Current Pending Sector Count
C6 100 100 __1 000000000000 Smart Off-line Scan Uncorrectable Error Count
C7 100 100 __1 000000000000 Ultra DMA CRC Error Rate
CA _96 _96 __1 000000000004 Percent Lifetime Used
CE 100 100 __1 000000000000 Write Error Rate
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Re: Heavy System lags during heavy writes to the SSD

Postposted on Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:55 am

CDI says your M4 is 0309...the latest firmware is 070H

Is your pagefile on your SSD or one of the drives?

Does your UEFI have a 'SATA IDE Combined Mode' enabled? Disable that.
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Re: Heavy System lags during heavy writes to the SSD

Postposted on Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:51 am

I would also doublecheck in the device manager and make sure the drive (or any drive) has not switched to PIO mode.

That will slow the machine down and can make it feel unresponsive just like you mention.
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Re: Heavy System lags during heavy writes to the SSD

Postposted on Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:04 am

Savyg wrote:CDI says your M4 is 0309...the latest firmware is 070H

Is your pagefile on your SSD or one of the drives?

Does your UEFI have a 'SATA IDE Combined Mode' enabled? Disable that.


i will update the ssd as sone as the backup is complete
yes page file is on the SSD but only like 2GB
My Bios does not a SATA IDE combined mode


Aranarth wrote:I would also doublecheck in the device manager and make sure the drive (or any drive) has not switched to PIO mode.

That will slow the machine down and can make it feel unresponsive just like you mention.


I tried but I don't have the option where it should be but I have 2 ATA 0 Channels and 2 ATA 1 Channels is that strange ?

thanks for the help so far!
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