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ultima_trev wrote:I've never had a problem with Avast being spammy
ultima_trev wrote:And Windows Defender has never been considered good enough to replace a real anti-malware/virus scanner.
just brew it! wrote:I would go with Windows Defender + periodic MBAM scans.
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w76 wrote:Windows Defender seems to get lots of recommendations despite its relatively awful test results (which is nothing new to 2015), I'd call it serviceable if you combine it with safe practices (no porn, no bittorrent/usenet/etc). But otherwise, I've used BitDefender without issue for a couple years now, mostly just out of paranoia, and Kaspersky before that, both of which are top-notch in terms of detection.
Another reason to go with anything other than Windows default: by definition it's going to have a smaller target on its back, because it's not the default. Frankly I'm surprised everyone just seems to be ignoring real-world tests! We don't do that for CPUs or GPUs.
BlackDove wrote:Microsoft Security Essentials and Windows Defender use ASLR for all files by default, making them harder to target as well. A lot of other antiviruses including Bitdefender and Kaspersky dont, meaning they can easily be targeted.
just brew it! wrote:BlackDove wrote:Microsoft Security Essentials and Windows Defender use ASLR for all files by default, making them harder to target as well. A lot of other antiviruses including Bitdefender and Kaspersky dont, meaning they can easily be targeted.
While ASLR is certainly a good idea, if your AV program is specifically being targeted in a way that ASLR would mitigate, then by definition the malware is already installed and executing on your system. In other words, your malware protection measures have already failed. So it is really more of a "Plan B" damage control measure (to prevent the AV from being completely disabled after the system has already been breached), rather than an effective front-line defense.
It is much more important to use ASLR for applications and services that may contain exploitable bugs and are expected to handle untrusted content.
Neutronbeam wrote:Avast was kept during all my Win 10 installs--6 to date.
localhostrulez wrote:My work uses SCEP (Microsoft System Center Endpoint Protection - bleh name), aka MSE Enterprise. Seems to work well enough, and it's a whole lot less annoying than the McAfee Enterprise suite we had before.
BlackDove wrote:w76 wrote:Windows Defender seems to get lots of recommendations despite its relatively awful test results (which is nothing new to 2015), I'd call it serviceable if you combine it with safe practices (no porn, no bittorrent/usenet/etc). But otherwise, I've used BitDefender without issue for a couple years now, mostly just out of paranoia, and Kaspersky before that, both of which are top-notch in terms of detection.
Another reason to go with anything other than Windows default: by definition it's going to have a smaller target on its back, because it's not the default. Frankly I'm surprised everyone just seems to be ignoring real-world tests! We don't do that for CPUs or GPUs.
Bitdefender just got hacked and their users passwords which were stored UNENCRYPTED got stolen few days ago.
Those "real world" tests are useless because they arent real world at all and they SHOULD be ignored because theyre meaningless.
They test against KNOWN malware samples, which is pointless. Most antivirus software offers nothing but a false sense of security and some of the ones that do well in those meaningless antivirus comparisons are the worst.
Microsoft Security Essentials and Windows Defender use ASLR for all files by default, making them harder to target as well. A lot of other antiviruses including Bitdefender and Kaspersky dont, meaning they can easily be targeted.
Bitdefender and Kaspersky have plenty of issues. http://www.pcworld.com/article/2459760/ ... -says.html