The Windows 7 problem thread.

[flip-mode]

Have problems? Share them here.

My problem has been demonstrated on 3 separate computers now - Windows Explorer is crashing very frequently, as in, at least once a day, and, worst case, I made it crash repeatedly while simply using ctrl+c or ctrl+v on a folder. This is on brand new installs. Anyone else seeing this? Again, this is on three totally unique computers. How many computers do I have Windows 7 installed on? 4. So, 75% of my installs are having this problem.

[liquidsquid]

64-bit or 32-bit? Don't make me worry like this! I am about to pull the trigger on the work machine.

What is the commonality between these machines (besides Windows 7 of course!), same video card? Similar setting preferences? Do you have the fancy graphics on or off? Just wondering how to avoid it as this sort of "bug" seems like it would cause a lot more stir than just from you so far.

Thanks

[thecoldanddarkone]

Have problems? Share them here.

My problem has been demonstrated on 3 separate computers now - Windows Explorer is crashing very frequently, as in, at least once a day, and, worst case, I made it crash repeatedly while simply using ctrl+c or ctrl+v on a folder. This is on brand new installs. Anyone else seeing this? Again, this is on three totally unique computers. How many computers do I have Windows 7 installed on? 4. So, 75% of my installs are having this problem.

Do those three have any similarities? Any drivers, etc?

[Neutronbeam]

Have done two in-place installs and one clean install. This is the current status:

1. Netbook clean install with Home Premium -- fine
2. Acer laptop W7 64-bit Ultimate in-place install -- fine so far
3. My main PC [specs below] is BSODing within seconds or 15 minutes of booting up. Safe Mode is pretty safe for now. Now uninstalling ASUS apps and others to see if it can be stopped. May uninstall iTunes and ATI Catalyst Center as well and just have the ATI driver.

I updated all drivers and programs prior to the install, and ran the Compatability Advisor multiple times before installation and followed its instructions. I do not want to do a clean install unless nothing else works. Any suggestions, tips, would be appreciated.

[elmopuddy]

I,ve only seen this behaviour with my primary PC, it was a buggy Xonar DX driver that caused that (yeah wtf lol)

[Flying Fox]

flip you are putting me in a tough spot there. There are already a few threads out there. Should I lock yours or should I just merge everything? Everyone's problem seems to be different enough so I don't know for diagnostic purposes we should put everything in one thread for all the problems people have. And then the bitchers/whiners/luddities would be posting in the thread adding to the noise.

[Flying Fox]

64-bit or 32-bit? Don't make me worry like this! I am about to pull the trigger on the work machine.

What is the commonality between these machines (besides Windows 7 of course!), same video card? Similar setting preferences? Do you have the fancy graphics on or off? Just wondering how to avoid it as this sort of "bug" seems like it would cause a lot more stir than just from you so far.

For a production system it is always wise to have a fall back plan anyways. Don't go one-way on the upgrade.

[liquidsquid]

Yeah, looking at imaging my system so I can go back easily if things go awry.

[Omniman]

The only issue i've been having is windows media player being sluggish in the x64 version.

[flip-mode]

64-bit or 32-bit? Don't make me worry like this! I am about to pull the trigger on the work machine.
What is the commonality between these machines (besides Windows 7 of course!), same video card? Similar setting preferences? Do you have the fancy graphics on or off? Just wondering how to avoid it as this sort of "bug" seems like it would cause a lot more stir than just from you so far.
Thanks

All 64 bit. Different video (but all ATI), different CPU, one AMD home built, one Dell Optiplex 740, one Dell Optiplex 745. All are running the Microsoft provided drivers.

[flip-mode]

flip you are putting me in a tough spot there. There are already a few threads out there. Should I lock yours or should I just merge everything? Everyone's problem seems to be different enough so I don't know for diagnostic purposes we should put everything in one thread for all the problems people have. And then the bitchers/whiners/luddities would be posting in the thread adding to the noise.

Good question. I honestly don't care. You decide! You won't hurt my feelings, regardless.

[moriz]

both my desktop and laptop will occasionally completely freeze after waking up from screensaver (also applies to monitor power saving mode). as in, only the mouse responds, and nothing else. my desktop can usually recover from that within 10 seconds, while my laptop generally won't recover. i had to hard reset it to fix it.

[Aphasia]

I had issues with alot of bsod'ing, and they all seemed related to memory after having run windbg and -v analyze on all of them. So last weekend i sat down and ran memtest and looked at all the settings. On my asus mobo i set the fsb strap to auto, went away from the 1200 setting and used 1333 and also raised the voltage to 1.8v instead of the standard 1.5v since the Corsair memoery was 1600MHz @1.8V test. That made memtest pass just fine and havent had a bsod since then. 6 days now. Before i took the time and tried different setting, it could bsod at 1066, or 1200 just out of the blue. Had 20 bsods since early september when i started with the RTM version. The only thing that works in such cases is to be methodical and take the time and go through the settings, one at a time starting at the lowest working one.

That said, my C2Q 9450(2.66GHz) runs fine forever with prime at 3.2GHz. And my 4870 is at 750/1000 instead of the 750/900 that is the default. Actually had it at 780/1080 for quite some time but backed it down for the testing a few weeks ago.

[flip-mode]

both my desktop and laptop will occasionally completely freeze after waking up from screensaver (also applies to monitor power saving mode). as in, only the mouse responds, and nothing else. my desktop can usually recover from that within 10 seconds, while my laptop generally won't recover. i had to hard reset it to fix it.

Oh, yeah, this has happened to me too. In fact, I was very concerned that it was the 8 GB of new RAM I bought for the machine, so I memtested each stick individually. They were all fine. Whatever is causing this problem, it is in the Windows 7 software.

[flip-mode]

both my desktop and laptop will occasionally completely freeze after waking up from screensaver (also applies to monitor power saving mode). as in, only the mouse responds, and nothing else. my desktop can usually recover from that within 10 seconds, while my laptop generally won't recover. i had to hard reset it to fix it.

Oh, yeah, this has happened to me too. In fact, I was very concerned that it was the 8 GB of new RAM I bought for the machine, so I memtested each stick individually. They were all fine. Whatever is causing this problem, it is in the Windows 7 software.

S.O.B. just happened again on my Dell Optiplex at work; hard freeze, had to pull the plug.

[just brew it!]

Oh, yeah, this has happened to me too. In fact, I was very concerned that it was the 8 GB of new RAM I bought for the machine, so I memtested each stick individually. They were all fine. Whatever is causing this problem, it is in the Windows 7 software.

Testing each stick individually won't catch errors caused by memory bus loading (which in my experience represents a non-trivial percentage of memory problems). You really do need to run memtest with the sticks installed in the configuration you plan to use them in (including timings).

[flip-mode]

Oh, yeah, this has happened to me too. In fact, I was very concerned that it was the 8 GB of new RAM I bought for the machine, so I memtested each stick individually. They were all fine. Whatever is causing this problem, it is in the Windows 7 software.

Testing each stick individually won't catch errors caused by memory bus loading (which in my experience represents a non-trivial percentage of memory problems). You really do need to run memtest with the sticks installed in the configuration you plan to use them in (including timings).

Thank you, I'll try that.

[flip-mode]

It happened again. It happens after Windows puts the monitor into power save. This is also happening (less frequently) to a second person in the office. The third person has not mentioned that he has had any problems at all. I'm going to turn off the monitor power saving feature for now and see if that helps.

[moriz]

in the one instance where my laptop managed to recover itself, i posted the old "nvidia driver has stopped due to error, but has been recovered" etc. since it uses the now infamous 8400M GS, it might just be the chip going bad very slowly. strangely enough, my desktop's radeon card did not report such an error on the few times it happened. looks like it's due to a variety of causes here.

btw, are you guys running aero? it could have something to do with aero textures being stored in vRAM only, and windows is having problems accessing it on occasion.

[Flying Fox]

Can we allow some cussing in the forums, just this once....PLEASE! Because Mirosoft has somehow **** up something that I would have figured was next to impossible. I still can hardly believe it. But here it is: Windows 7 WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO DOWNLOAD XP Mode. I don't even know how that's possible, and I'm sure you're all going to tell me something along those lines, but the fact of the matter is that I tried 5 or 6 times over the course of several days to download XP Mode from Microsoft's website and could not. So, it occured to me that it is possible that the problem is actually Windows 7. I went to the machine adjacent to me - same network, same network settings, same gateway to the internet, same internet connection, same motherboard and integrated network interface card, but the machine runs Windows XP - and I downloaded Windows XP Mode on the first attempt. **** you Microsoft.

[moriz]

that's strange, i can download xp mode just fine, and none of my computers even support hardware virtualization :S

[flip-mode]

that's strange, i can download xp mode just fine, and none of my computers even support hardware virtualization :S

Yeah, I would not be surprised if I am the only one in the world that cannot. I ought to try it on my home computer. Maybe Windows 7 just hates Dell Optiplex. All my problems are on the Optiplex; the home-built computer seems to chug along without incident.