Win7 x64 Ultimate, where the heck?!?!

[liquidsquid]

Hi everyone,
Trying out Windows 7 x64 Ultimate version at home, and have a few problems maybe someone can help me with:

Where the heck is Media Player 12? Does not seem to be installed at all, and no file associations with video files. How can I get it on this box? Do you think it is because I used an MSDN image of Ultimate? I tried Media Player 11 x64 and it will not go on the machine at all.

Freescale CodeWarrior. Ugh, I cannot believe they are so far behind the ball (well, actually I can). They have a free special version for 8-bit controllers I use, version 6.2. When you go to install it quits at the tail-end and backs out with no explanation. Then they just released a new version of 6.3 and it does the same thing, only now they specifically says "Not compatible with x64". I mean come on, they are a processor developer and they cannot get their own tools to compile in a 64-bit OS and release it? How long have they had to fix their issues? Tards...

The question here is I have XP Virtual mode installed, but I have yet to try installing the same package under it. Is there a chance it will simply detect the XP instance as 32-bit and run blindly like it were in a 32-bis OS?

Lastly I have Visual Studio 2005 and am hitting issues my projects compiling but not running (just quick spot-checks). It has been suggested I need to re-create the projects under the new OS to make it work, does this sound reasonable?

[Flying Fox]

Where the heck is Media Player 12? Does not seem to be installed at all, and no file associations with video files. How can I get it on this box? Do you think it is because I used an MSDN image of Ultimate? I tried Media Player 11 x64 and it will not go on the machine at all.

Ultimate should have it. On a default install WMP should be the 3rd button to the right on the taskbar after IE and Windows Explorer. May be you missed the different icon? So you double click video files and nothing launches? How about Start menu search?

Freescale CodeWarrior. Ugh, I cannot believe they are so far behind the ball (well, actually I can). They have a free special version for 8-bit controllers I use, version 6.2. When you go to install it quits at the tail-end and backs out with no explanation. Then they just released a new version of 6.3 and it does the same thing, only now they specifically says "Not compatible with x64". I mean come on, they are a processor developer and they cannot get their own tools to compile in a 64-bit OS and release it? How long have they had to fix their issues? Tards...

Try run the installer and the program in compatibility mode and see if it works?

The question here is I have XP Virtual mode installed, but I have yet to try installing the same package under it. Is there a chance it will simply detect the XP instance as 32-bit and run blindly like it were in a 32-bis OS?

If there is no low-level drivers involved then it may still work. Just try it I say. XP mode is basically running a VM with XP32.

Lastly I have Visual Studio 2005 and am hitting issues my projects compiling but not running (just quick spot-checks). It has been suggested I need to re-create the projects under the new OS to make it work, does this sound reasonable?

Haven't tried that myself. Any links?

[shaq_mobile]

dont forget to enable dreamscene! http://windows7center.com/tutorials/how ... windows-7/
works just great for me
make sure to drop the dll's in the proper place and youre good to go.

[liquidsquid]

Ultimate should have it. On a default install WMP should be the 3rd button to the right on the taskbar after IE and Windows Explorer. May be you missed the different icon? So you double click video files and nothing launches? How about Start menu search?

Nope, not there, completely gone. Searched and searched plus no file associations on video files.

Try run the installer and the program in compatibility mode and see if it works?

I tried several versions, the .MSI specifically polls something to check for base OS and barfs.

If there is no low-level drivers involved then it may still work. Just try it I say. XP mode is basically running a VM with XP32.

Gonna give it a try, but it does need to talk to debuggers through USB. This alone may be a showstopper for me.

Haven't tried that myself. Any links?

No, from co-worker.

I have more playing to do when I get home, but the biggest problem for me is CodeWarrior. That is my bread and butter to pay for these toys. This is one tool I didn't research, I should have known better. Looks like the home machine will be running 32-bit for a while still.

-Mark

[liquidsquid]

D'oh! I figured it out. I apparently downloaded the "N" version of the CD image which does not include Internet Explorer AND Windows Media Player. Friggin EU got me again. I didn't notice at first since I go right to Firefox.

[liquidsquid]

Frack!!! CodeWarrior installed in Virtual mode just fine, but its licensing detects it is in a terminal mode, and will not let me run the tool. The problem is, this is the "free" unlicensed version, so I have no idea why they would limit it at all. Gurd-dang LM licensing!!! At least I have an installation image to use for a "hack" job now.

Dang CW nimrods.

[liquidsquid]

Well, I figured out all of my problems, including getting CodeWarrior for micro-controllers 6.2 to run directly under x64 Windows 7. You have to jump through hoops for CW, and if anyone else here would like to know how, drop me a message. Don't install CW6.3 as it is too restrictive anyhow for a "free" version.

Otherwise don't install the N version of Win7 as you cannot "upgrade, cross-grade, or whatever to the version which includes WMP. You have to do a full new install.

[UberGerbil]

Otherwise don't install the N version of Win7 as you cannot "upgrade, cross-grade, or whatever to the version which includes WMP. You have to do a full new install.

I would've expected Microsoft to make that easy. Which suggests that was an EU requirement as well.

Anyway, good to hear you got it all working. Was the VS 2005 issue actually an issue (I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure I never had a problem with it on XP x64 back in the day).

[liquidsquid]

The VS issue was not, it was the simple fact that Windows 7 does not include any file-based database drivers. Since I did not install MS Office this time, I did not have drivers installed for MSAccess file databases, and my program relies on them. Apparently even though I had my Connect contained in a Try/Catch, the lack of drivers under the call does not get handled elegantly and blows up. Converting to an SQL server works fine, apart from getting my old data into it.

I needed to do this anyways, so it just forced me a bit sooner.

-Mark

[Madman]

D'oh! I figured it out. I apparently downloaded the "N" version of the CD image which does not include Internet Explorer AND Windows Media Player. Friggin EU got me again. I didn't notice at first since I go right to Firefox.

Well, consider yourself lucky, just look at what MP12 defaults are, it's one hell of a piece of spyware. Basically it goes and downloads bunch of stuff even without asking. All defaults are "download, download, download". Some trojans are more well behaved.

[UberGerbil]

The VS issue was not, it was the simple fact that Windows 7 does not include any file-based database drivers. Since I did not install MS Office this time, I did not have drivers installed for MSAccess file databases, and my program relies on them. Apparently even though I had my Connect contained in a Try/Catch, the lack of drivers under the call does not get handled elegantly and blows up. Converting to an SQL server works fine, apart from getting my old data into it.

I needed to do this anyways, so it just forced me a bit sooner.

Well, the MSAccess engine and its drivers for the various file formats is a redistributable so you could certainly package it up as part of your install. But switching to SQL Server is the better long-term approach (and the Express Edition is redistributable as well).