Retro Computing: Windows 2000 install and update

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Retro Computing: Windows 2000 install and update

Postposted on Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:30 pm

So you ever just run across an old Windows 2000 CD and key and you think, "golly, I'd shure like to install me this OS?" I have. Unfortunately, after you install Win2K you can't update it out of the box because most links are broke or not available and Windows Update thinks you're a jerk for using an old OS.

Fear not! I come bearing solutions!

This process took me about 2 hours off-and-on while doing other things. I installed it in a VirtualBox VM but you can probably install it on regular hardware if you can find the right drivers. Want to bog down a Pentium 75? Go fer it! If you go the VirtualBox route, please read this section on installing Win2K. You'll need to run that command I listed below.

http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch12.html#idp20736080
VBoxManage setextradata "VM name" "VBoxInternal/Devices/piix3ide/0/Config/IRQDelay" 1

Ok, I had a Win2K Pro SP4 CD but I'm going to assume this works the same for any of 'em. Don't bother going to the Windows Update website. It won't work until later on in the install process. This entire process can be done in the OS itself. The browser is a little gimpy but you can muddle through things.

For Microsoft download links, find the DOWNLOAD button, right-click and copy the link, paste it in the browser.
Then, click on the Start Download link to actually download the file.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download ... px?id=4127 SP4 Network Install (install this first)
http://www.oldapps.com/internet_explore ... xplorer=11 (auto-extracts to desktop, run ie6setup.exe, after install it auto-reboots)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932494 (get the x86 version and install it)

Windows Update popped up in the lower-right, asking me to set a time to download and install files. Ok, I did it.

These two installers just silently install. You'll get no feedback. Just assume they worked once you ran 'em.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download ... x?id=35945 (have to install Genuine Advantage thing to download)
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download ... x?id=36195

At this point Windows Update popped up again to install two updates:
Microsoft Windows Installer 3.1
Update for Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS) 2.0 and WinHTTP 5.1 (KB842773)

After installation, time to reboot! If you didn't get Windows Update doing its thing, you can open a command prompt and try to kick it off manually with the following command:

wuauclt /ResetAuthorization /DetectNow

After the reboot, let Windows Update start to do its thing. You can try kicking it off manually via the command line if you are impatient. I had 86 updates one time, another time I had 90. Yes, I did this process multiple times to make sure it worked. So there should be a decent number of 'em.

Reboot.

For me, it was at THIS POINT that the Windows Update website finally started to work. I hit it over and over until all the optional updates were gone as well. Windows Update little icon had one or two updates it tried to give me during this time but I ignored it. They seemed to be subsets of ones on the website or duplicates of ones already installed. I'm guessing Win2K was just freaked out running in a VM on an SSD at this point.

I installed DX9 and updates and then installed Media Player 9 and updates.

Installing 4 of 8 Windows Media Player updates and BOOM my VM crashed. I had to install the remaining updates individually and these kept failing:

Security Update for Windows Media Player 9 for Windows 2000 (KB979402)
Security Update for Windows Media Player 9 for Windows 2000 (KB973540)
(the following ones came up one at a time after I hid/ignored the two preceding ones)
Security Update for Windows Media Player 9 (KB936782)
Security Update for Windows Media Player 9 (KB917734)
Security Update for Windows Media Player 9 (KB911565)
Security Update for Windows Media Player 9 Series (KB885492)

One more update trickled in and worked but even standalone these wouldn't install. Oh well, I guess my 10-year-out-of-date OS will be totally insecure because I can't install these patches. It's possible they needed to be installed BEFORE some other patches but I don't care enough to find out.

You can also use WSUSOffline to get Win2K patches as outlined in the following:
http://forums.wsusoffline.net/viewtopic ... 520#p10546
http://download.wsusoffline.net/wsusoffline665.zip

It seemed to work well enough when I gave it a try. I suppose you could set up a WSUS server as well and get Win2K updates that way. I didn't bother giving that a shot.

Another route you may wish to take is this website: http://www.hpcfactor.com/support/patching/win2000/

I wiped out my update history as part of trying to fix the updates that didn't work so unfortunately I can't tell which ones are included with my method versus the manual downloads the site lists.

Hopefully this is useful to anyone with a pile o' old Win2K CDs and a buncha P3's they want to play with.
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Re: Retro Computing: Windows 2000 install and update

Postposted on Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:09 pm

I love Windows 2000. Still to this day, my most favorite flavor of any Microsoft OS.

However, with that said, if your just playing with this in a VM, why bother going past SP4, and maybe a security roll-up?
If you're surfing from within the VM, it can't harm your host, right? Also, you probably won't be using it to surf the web with anyway, as you'll be doing that through your host (which is obviously an up to date, and fully patched OS).

2000 is awesome to run older software on, just wouldn't surf the web with it (my opinion).
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Re: Retro Computing: Windows 2000 install and update

Postposted on Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:20 pm

True, if you're not using the internet, you'll be fine. Still, they aren't just security fixes in my mind, they are also bug fixes. And getting IE6 working at least gets you to a certain old baseline level of functionality. Granted, TR was only mostly functional when I visited it and I agree with you wholeheartedly that you should at least use another browser if you're going to check out the web.

Win2K is my favorite, too. I have a dual P3 IBM server with 3 GB of RAM that I'd like to throw it on sometime; it's currently sitting in a corner until I get an area for it. For machines of that era, I'm torn between Win98SE and Win2K. Sometime I'll have to see what I can do about building a Win9x VM from scratch. I'm sure there are custom ISOs and slipstreamed things but I'd like as many MS sources as possible to aid in reproducability and for the paranoid amongst us.
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Re: Retro Computing: Windows 2000 install and update

Postposted on Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:30 pm

You're best off to use VMware Player to make a Win98 VM. VirtualBox doesn't have functioning guest utilities at the moment and may never, but VMware's work well.
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Re: Retro Computing: Windows 2000 install and update

Postposted on Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:58 pm

I used win2k for a very long time, actually skipped XP with it and went straight to XP64.

I have quite a few patch files and tweaks for this OS on my drive. Some recommendations:
AutoPatcher_Win2K_Aug07_ENU_Core.exe * if you can find it. I have a copy, not sure on how to share.
There's a .ini tweak you can do to install the OS without a key.
Microsoft Windows 2000 Unofficial SP 5.1.2195 Make a sp5 install cd.
http://www.nliteos.com/ * add drivers for sata or scsi
http://download.kappa.ro/action__file/id__24 Simply Transparent (XP style transparent desktop icons)
http://www.mdgx.com/ * massive list of tweaks for older windows.
http://www.mdgx.com/w2ktoy.htm#2K0 * Unofficial Windows 2000 XP API Wrapper Pack (OCW)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/vdmsound/ * sound for dos games
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Re: Retro Computing: Windows 2000 install and update

Postposted on Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:58 pm

sircharles32 wrote:If you're surfing from within the VM, it can't harm your host, right?


VMEscape attacks.
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