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No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Thu May 22, 2008 11:20 am

OK, I'm back with more problems. I've installed Ubuntu 8.04 on a test machine at work. A Dell Optiplex GX270 with a 3.2 ghz P4 and 1.5GB of RAM. Video card is an old NVIDIA Riva TNT2 Model 64. I know its not much, but I want to enable some basic desktop effects. Not the fullblown stuff, just the basics like the desktop cube, etc. I had no problem enabling them in Fedora 8. I've installed the latest drivers straight from NVIDIA, and still get the error, "desktop effects could not be enabled."

When I try '$ compiz --replace ccp' I get

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Checking for Xgl: not present.
Detected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:002d (rev 15) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Checking for texture_from_pixmap: not present.
Trying again with indirect rendering:
Checking for texture_from_pixmap: not present.
aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity


contents of xorg.conf are as follows:

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# xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by failsafeDexconf, using
# values from the debconf database and some overrides to use vesa mode.
#
# You should use dexconf or another such tool for creating a "real" xorg.conf
# For example:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier    "Generic Keyboard"
    Driver        "kbd"
    Option        "XkbRules"    "xorg"
    Option        "XkbModel"    "pc105"
    Option        "XkbLayout"    "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier    "Configured Mouse"
    Driver        "mouse"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier    "Configured Video Device"
    Boardname    "NVIDIA Legacy"
    Busid        "PCI:1:0:0"
    Driver        "nvidia"
    Screen    0
    Vendorname    "NVIDIA"
    Option        "NoLogo"    "True"
    Option        "UseEdidFreqs"    "True"
    Option        "AllowGLXWithComposite"    "True"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier    "Configured Monitor"
    Vendorname    "Dell"
    Modelname    "Dell 1702FP (Analog)"
    Horizsync    30.0-80.0
    Vertrefresh    56.0-76.0
  modeline  "640x480@60" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -vsync -hsync
  modeline  "640x480@72" 31.5 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -vsync -hsync
  modeline  "640x480@75" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -vsync -hsync
  modeline  "800x600@56" 36.0 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync
  modeline  "800x600@72" 50.0 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync
  modeline  "800x600@75" 49.5 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync
  modeline  "800x600@60" 40.0 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync
  modeline  "832x624@75" 57.284 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -vsync -hsync
  modeline  "1024x768@75" 78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync
  modeline  "1024x768@70" 75.0 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -vsync -hsync
  modeline  "1024x768@60" 65.0 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -vsync -hsync
  modeline  "1152x864@75" 108.0 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync
  modeline  "1280x1024@75" 135.0 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
  modeline  "1280x960@60" 102.1 1280 1360 1496 1712 960 961 964 994 -hsync +vsync
  modeline  "1280x1024@60" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
  modeline  "1280x960@75" 129.86 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1002 -hsync +vsync
  modeline  "1400x1050@60" 122.61 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1087 -hsync +vsync
  modeline  "1600x1200@60" 162.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
    Gamma    1.0
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier    "Default Screen"
    Device        "Configured Video Device"
    Monitor        "Configured Monitor"
    Defaultdepth    24
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth    24
        Virtual    1600    1200
        Modes        "1280x1024@60"    "1280x960@75"    "1280x960@60"    "1400x1050@60"    "1280x1024@75"    "1600x1200@60"    "1152x864@75"    "1024x768@60"    "1024x768@70"    "1024x768@75"    "832x624@75"    "800x600@60"    "800x600@75"    "800x600@72"    "800x600@56"    "640x480@75"    "640x480@72"    "640x480@60"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier    "Default Layout"
  screen 0 "Default Screen" 0 0
EndSection
Section "Module"
    Load        "glx"
    Load        "v4l"
EndSection
Section "ServerFlags"
EndSection


what am I missing?
I think the vast majority of people who tell you they have a virus actually mean 'I keep my pictures in the system32 folder and occasionally delete things at random'.

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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Thu May 22, 2008 11:22 am

Are you using the Nvidia legacy drivers? I'm about certain that the default drivers don't support anything older than either GF3 or GF5.
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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Thu May 22, 2008 11:24 am

That is what I installed. NV updated their legacy drivers at the end of January. Thats what I installed. I also tried all of the other available nvidia drivers that Ubuntu offered before getting them straight from nvidia. No luck regardless...
I think the vast majority of people who tell you they have a virus actually mean 'I keep my pictures in the system32 folder and occasionally delete things at random'.

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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Thu May 22, 2008 11:31 am

What method are you using compiz? Have you tried just turning on the effects in Desktop Effects setting in appearance instead.
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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Thu May 22, 2008 11:35 am

Thats what I've been using to turn them on. I can't enable Normal or Extra. When I try, thats when I get the error "Desktop Effects could not be enabled"
I think the vast majority of people who tell you they have a virus actually mean 'I keep my pictures in the system32 folder and occasionally delete things at random'.

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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Thu May 22, 2008 11:35 am

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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Thu May 22, 2008 3:31 pm

From looking at your X.Org configuration file, it doesn't look like X is loading the OpenGL drivers or XGL. (Can't remember which it's supposed to load.) There should be a Load Modules section, but there isn't.

Speaking of which, did you update OpenGL to see and use the new Nvidia drivers? I forget the command for this one, but I can find it in a bit.

Edit: I found the modules section, it's at the bottom of the configuration file. Whenever I work with the file it's at the top.
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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Thu May 22, 2008 4:27 pm

glxinfo reports what for a renderer?
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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Fri May 23, 2008 8:19 am

Forge wrote:glxinfo reports what for a renderer?


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name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.3
server glx extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig,
    GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGI_swap_control
client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
client glx version string: 1.3
client glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info,
    GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_SGI_video_sync,
    GLX_NV_swap_group, GLX_NV_video_out, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer,
    GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_NV_float_buffer
GLX version: 1.3
GLX extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig,
    GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGI_swap_control,
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: RIVA TNT2/AGP/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 1.5.3 NVIDIA 71.86.04
OpenGL extensions:
    GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_point_parameters,
    GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat,
    GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, GL_ARB_window_pos,
    GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra,
    GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements,
    GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, GL_EXT_packed_pixels,
    GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object, GL_EXT_point_parameters,
    GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color,
    GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap,
    GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine,
    GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_vertex_array,
    GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat,
    GL_KTX_buffer_region, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_fog_distance,
    GL_NV_light_max_exponent, GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil,
    GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_texture_env_combine4, GL_SGIS_multitexture,
    GL_SUN_slice_accum

   visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
 id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
----------------------------------------------------------------------
0x21 24 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  4 24  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x22 24 dc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  4 24  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x23 24 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  4 24  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x24 24 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  0  4 24  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x25 24 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  4 24  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x26 24 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  4  0  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x27 24 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  4  0  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x28 24 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  0  4  0  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x29 24 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  4  0  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x2a 24 dc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  4 24  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x2b 24 dc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  0  4 24  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x2c 24 dc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  4 24  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x2d 24 dc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  4  0  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x2e 24 dc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  4  0  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x2f 24 dc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  0  4  0  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x30 24 dc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  4  0  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x81 32 tc  1  0  0 c  .  .  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
I think the vast majority of people who tell you they have a virus actually mean 'I keep my pictures in the system32 folder and occasionally delete things at random'.

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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Fri May 23, 2008 8:25 am

I had this problem, it was related to my dual-monitor settings, and it was switchable in the dual-monitor GUI setup (I forget the name). Currently I cannot run Ubuntu since I have the older version without support for the 9600 card, so I couldn't tell you right now what the setting is that fixed it. It is something non-obvious.
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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Fri May 23, 2008 9:42 am

It looks like the solution for some was to install xserver-xgl. Have you tried doing that?
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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Fri May 23, 2008 10:00 am

titan wrote:It looks like the solution for some was to install xserver-xgl. Have you tried doing that?


I just tried that. Still no luck though...
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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Fri May 23, 2008 4:12 pm

Somebody, somewhere suggested enabling DRI. Try adding Load "DRI" to the modules section of your xorg.conf.

Also, try running:
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sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Fri May 23, 2008 4:18 pm

I've done some poking around. It looks like people who haven't installed the drivers from the Restricted Drivers Manager had been unable to get it working. I think anyway.

Try following the steps from this page:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Binar ... wto/Nvidia
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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Fri May 23, 2008 4:32 pm

titan wrote:I've done some poking around. It looks like people who haven't installed the drivers from the Restricted Drivers Manager had been unable to get it working. I think anyway.

Try following the steps from this page:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Binar ... wto/Nvidia

He's already using the nvidia-glx-legacy drivers. Based on his xorg.conf and glxinfo output, the Nvidia binary drivers are working and GL is using direct accelerated rendering.

Since his card is really old (TNT2), he has to use the legacy (7xxx) nvidia drivers which don't support GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap. That means he'll have to use Xgl to get desktop effects. zer0, you said you tried installing the Xgl X server, but what output do you get from compiz --replace ... after you installed Xgl and did a full restart of X (by killing it or changing runlevels, etc.)?
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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Fri May 23, 2008 8:32 pm

bitvector wrote:
titan wrote:I've done some poking around. It looks like people who haven't installed the drivers from the Restricted Drivers Manager had been unable to get it working. I think anyway.

Try following the steps from this page:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Binar ... wto/Nvidia

He's already using the nvidia-glx-legacy drivers. Based on his xorg.conf and glxinfo output, the Nvidia binary drivers are working and GL is using direct accelerated rendering.

Since his card is really old (TNT2), he has to use the legacy (7xxx) nvidia drivers which don't support GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap. That means he'll have to use Xgl to get desktop effects. zer0, you said you tried installing the Xgl X server, but what output do you get from compiz --replace ... after you installed Xgl and did a full restart of X (by killing it or changing runlevels, etc.)?

Well then, wouldn't zer0 need to add this to his xorg.conf:
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Section "Extensions"
        Option  "Composite" "Disable"
EndSection
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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Sat May 24, 2008 2:32 pm

It may be that the version of compiz bundled with Ubuntu 8.04 is a bit pickier about what it'll run on than the one bundled with Fedora 8. Compiz is still pretty new, and the code base is subject to a fair bit of churn.

Expecting any sort of eye candy on a TNT2 is a bit much, IMO...
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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Sat May 24, 2008 5:26 pm

just brew it! wrote:Expecting any sort of eye candy on a TNT2 is a bit much, IMO...

I'm not sure what exactly a TNT2 supports but I got compiz-fusion running on a ATI mobility 7500. The only thing that doesn't work is the water effects, and there is a good chance that was user error. I did have to modify the whitelist file to install it though.
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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Tue May 27, 2008 1:27 pm

bitvector wrote:zer0, you said you tried installing the Xgl X server, but what output do you get from compiz --replace ... after you installed Xgl and did a full restart of X (by killing it or changing runlevels, etc.)?


same thing as before:

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Checking for Xgl: not present.
Detected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:002d (rev 15) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Checking for texture_from_pixmap: Segmentation fault
not present.
Trying again with indirect rendering:
Checking for texture_from_pixmap: Segmentation fault
not present.
aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity


so far still no luck...
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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Tue May 27, 2008 2:31 pm

BobbinThreadbare wrote:
just brew it! wrote:Expecting any sort of eye candy on a TNT2 is a bit much, IMO...

I'm not sure what exactly a TNT2 supports but I got compiz-fusion running on a ATI mobility 7500. The only thing that doesn't work is the water effects, and there is a good chance that was user error. I did have to modify the whitelist file to install it though.

I'm not sure exactly what a TNT2 can reasonably support either, but the TNT2 line pre-dates the Radeon 7xxx series by several years (it's from 1999). That could be offset by the fact that the TNT2 was a desktop part though.
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Re: No Desktop Effects in Hardy

Postposted on Tue May 27, 2008 2:40 pm

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