Personal computing discussed
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On 2001-12-30 21:01, Forge wrote:
Truth. OpenOffice might help the first problem, but idiot simple will never match up with UNIX.
On 2002-03-01 12:01, Prototyped wrote:
So we're seeing improvements on the usability front and the application availability front.
Whether or not Linux was ever meant to be on the desktop, people are dragging it there, kicking and screaming or not.
On 2002-03-05 18:11, Speed wrote:
I've noticed that in corporate environments, a substantial number of employees are so computer illiterate that they probably wouldn't even noticed if their desktop was switched, provided their icons were there, and did more or less what they did before.
On 2002-03-25 15:21, 0oALio0 wrote:
Lindows is supposed to be a version of linux that would appease the masses. It also supported windows programs. I was quite excited about it but now its release is being postponed because of a legal battle with M$. I would definitely check that one out and if the compatibility with M$ progs is good enough, i would proabably use it as my main operating system.
Should we write Code Red II that formats all local disks? Would it help or hurt?
Never. At least not on mainstream home desktops. Some corporate, sure, but Linux, and open source OSes in general don't have what it takes for mainstream desktop users.
One could say that Windows' capatability is worse than Linux's, because you can use wine to run quite a lot of Win32 apps on Linux. You have to recompile/hack/get reduced functionality out of lots of apps in order to get them to run on Windows.
Truth. OpenOffice might help the first problem, but idiot simple will never match up with UNIX.
Whether or not Linux was ever meant to be on the desktop, people are dragging it there, kicking and screaming or not.
If you guys follow the latest stuff, apparently one MS had the power to crush Linux with their FUD back in 98, and Red Hat is being limited because MS Office and IE is not available for Linux.
Java, write once, run anywhere.
You know, you'd think that after Code Red and all that jazz owned so many IIS servers and cost corportations SO much money last summer that they'd switch off of IIS to apache. These guys are real system administrators, after all...
Here's the situation: a large, for profit, corporation wants to save money in it's IT department by switching to linux so every secretary gets linux. How is that going to effect productivity when they secretary can barely use windows? =)
It's not so much a problem of being an idiot as it is a problem of: 1) the user not having enough patients to learn what is necessary, 2) the user not caring much about computers but merely reguarding them as a necessary tool to accomplish his daily tasks, 3) the user does not have the type of experiences working and experimenting with computers necessary because of #2.
Not to pick on you specifically LJ, the point is that everything has holes and gets patched and rebooted, even OpenBSD had several patches last year. While Microsoft has made some dumb decisions and had bad security, having the daemon that controls your logins, both remote and local, have a buffer overflow is not what I call great security in the OS either. When it comes to keeping systems up to date blame the admins not the people writing the code. They provided the fix, whether it was for Windows or a *Nix, the admins not keeping their systems up to date are to blame in those cases.
I did strip all of my Windows machines of IIS, using Apache instead. icon_biggrin.gif