axeman wrote:Not to derail this thread, but Debian/Ubuntu is what made desktop linux a reality for me, never found it too pleasant of experience otherwise. I did use Slackware and others quite a lot for server-oriented stuff. I tried the latest Fedora a while back, and it seemed to be fairly decent, but raised the question for me (unless this has been addressed): How on earth can anyone stand using an RPM based distro anymore? There seemed to be no good gui tool for searching for packages - can only install stuff if you know what it's called? Maybe that's just noob-itis, but the other issue was, GOOD GRAVY THIS THING TAKES FOREVER TO UPDATE! I've heard there is some (very good features) that RPM has versus DEB, but I can't bloody stand it. That said, I haven't used Suse in ages, so I don't know how much they have in common other than RPM package management.
I totally agree with you on this, I've found Debian/Ubuntu is what made desktop linux a reality for me too. I did try Mandrake/Mandriva, Red Hat, Slackware etc but never was happy. I did buy boxed versions of SuSE a couple of times but always just went back to Windows. Ubuntu from 2007 onwards made me switch.
The only reason I was using openSUSE on this laptop was that X-Windows on Ubuntu 10.10 simply wouldn't run (some file not found and I had no idea how to fix it). SUSE just worked though as a substitute, although I have to get the wireless drivers from Realtek's website but they work once installed.
Yast is great but what made me want to go back Ubuntu is the great depth of the repositories with Debian, much better than RPM based distros, so there was software I used on Ubuntu that I couldn't get on SUSE. Also the open source AVR tool chain and utilities are much easier to compile (with fewer tweaks) than on openSUSE.
BTW I switched to Kubuntu originally because I don't like Gnome 3, then I found out Ubuntu was switching to Unity which simply made me glad of my descision. I'm finding KDE 4.6 to be the best desktop enviroment I've ever tried! No looking back!!
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