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Operation F.A.D.D.

Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:47 am

This is the big one guys, this is our über-hardcore, semi-undercover, and long term drive to recruit other forums that aren't folding and get them to join the effort.

The basic idea is outlined here, but I'll summarize...

FADD stands for forums against debilitating diseases and its goal is to get forums without folding teams either to form their own team or join ours as a sub team or otherwise. This will be accomplished by identifying potential forums and designating a volunteer to establish themselves as an upstanding member of the community before asking about folding.

Now I want to make a clear distinction here, this is not folding@home spaming. We're not talking about popping the question after your 10th post, the expectation is that the volunteer will join a forum that they will enjoy being a part of (or intentionally become more active in a forum where they are already a member) so it will be a fun and hopefully enriching experience. Whether or not the forum joins the fold the idea is that the person enjoys their time there and others do as well. I would estimate a minimum of 6 months before anyone could truly feel comfortable enough in the community to ask about folding.

If folding gets shot down then hopefully you'll be inclined to stay anyway, and if people get into it then you'll become something of a mentor to them.

I think there's great potential here, we have 3DGPU and SereneScreen showing us that it can be done (even though what I'm proposing isn't quite how they came to be), between the two of them they're nearly producing 10,000 points a day (mostly 3DGPU's) and total nearly 700,000 points (mostly SereneScreen's).

Start posting your suggestions for forums to invite and also post here if you want to volunteer for this crazy plan...

I will keep this post updated.

Potential Forums:
http://www.cichlid-forum.com
http://www.duboisi.com
http://www.firingsquad.com
http://www.houseangeles.com
http://forum.thinkpads.com
http://cpu-museum.de/forum

Volunteers:
bhtooefr
Tarx
druidcent
Usacomp2k3
drfish

Progress:
drfish - http://www.duboisi.com/ - posted for the first time in a long while, just an intro to becoming more active
drfish - http://www.cichlid-forum.com/ - registered, planning on showing off my aquariums once my new camera arrives and going from there
Tarx - http://www.firingsquad.com/ - 100+ quality posts, making good progress
druidcent - http://www.houseangeles.com/ - druidcent - already well involved in the community, posted a thread about folding here.
bhtooefr - http://cpu-museum.de/forum - had already been extremely well established in the community. Attempted recruiting, only one was interested (the site admin) who wasn't already folding for another team
bhtooefr - http://forum.thinkpads.com - was established somewhat, attempted recruiting, one former folder was interested, but was concerned about fan noise
bhtooefr - http://epiacenter.com - have been in community since August 2004, beginning further involvement to position for folding poll

You get the idea... ;) Edit 2: Please post your updates in the format I have used above, then I can simply copy and paste, thanks!

Edit: Keep in mind that those that join the team as a result of this thread will probably ultimately read it, I don't think I need to say more.
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:07 am

Well first let me say this is a great idea. It will cause me to start looking at other forums othern than the few I attend now. Kinda of broaden mt computer life you may say. The other thing is I would like to thank drfish for posting that link to a cichlid forum. I might even send pics of my fish into it.
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Oh BTW I'm back to folding. My heat issues have been somewhat abated with repairs to the swamp cooler.
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:23 am

So I can add you to the list of volunteers? :)
 
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:01 am

You can add me to the list, but I can't really provide much in a fish forum :wink:
 
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:04 am

Added.

Suggest some more then. :)
 
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:31 am

Thanks DrFish! I like this thread ... and the edit ;)
I'm happy to help and support other forums to start folding, either as their own team or possibly as a subteam, depending if it is appropriate for them.

I guess I won't add NCIX as it is already up and running as of last friday. (Restarted the team that was abandoned last year - already doubled the original number of previous points in less than 5 days) (already with over 15 new members so far).
Why NCIX? ... well they are one of best web stores in Canada plus they are holding most of my computer funds ;) And they have a strong forum and although I was more of a lurker than a poster, I was a long time member. Is anybody here also a member of the NCIX forums?

I'm also a member of FiringSquad's forums, so I intend to bring it up after the summer. This probably will be as their own team, but I'll mention the subteam idea anyway. This could become a relatively powerful team. I'm not sure I want to put this on the list, but if anyone else from FS is around, let me know.

Lastly with the forum MatrixOwners there doesn't seem much interest by the people running the site. I'll give a few more days (and emails) to see if it will start. Otherwise, I'll ask the forum members if they want to start up a subteam. In any case I'll post some basic info and links to http://www.TRfolding.org. Unfortunately I doubt that I'll need much support there...

Outside of that, I'm not in any other forums that might be able to field a team (or they already have one). But perhaps I can support someone in another forum (if it is a forum that I would be interested in of course... sorry, no fish for me!)
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:56 pm

Hi Dr. Fish!

Well in response to your call for Operation FADD, I've gotten some good response from one of my gaming forums.. My guild members have decided to join the fold as it were as a sub team under TR :)

Needless to say I've resigned my UGN citizenship to form and lead this horde... They may pop in and say, but I'll be coordinating the efforts from our forums over there..

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Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:06 pm

Fish, put something up to say that I tried and failed to recruit cpu-museum.de (I've been there for a LOT longer than here, and I had a couple hundred posts before the recruit attempt) and thinkpads.com (hadn't been there long, but I did wait to recruit, and was careful on how I attempted the recruit.) In the thinkpads.com case, it was mainly lack of interest. In the cpu-museum.de case, it seemed that most of the people that were interested were already folding for someone else.
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:09 pm

druidcent wrote:
Hi Dr. Fish!

Well in response to your call for Operation FADD, I've gotten some good response from one of my gaming forums.. My guild members have decided to join the fold as it were as a sub team under TR :)

Needless to say I've resigned my UGN citizenship to form and lead this horde... They may pop in and say, but I'll be coordinating the efforts from our forums over there..

-Cent

P.S. Some times it's good to be the crusty old fart who won't leave :)


Hey, do you have link to the thread for us to watch the action?
 
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:35 pm

Yes, please post a link to any and all forums we're working on and I'll stick your name next to the forum on the list.

bhtooefr,
How should I format that? A new list for "failed attempts." Or maybe a list of "forums in progress." So there would be three list, one for all the fourms being considered, one for all the volunteers willing to join up, and a third for forums that are being "worked on" noting who's involved and what the status is... I think I like it... Thoughts?
 
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:59 pm

Here's the link:

http://www.houseangeles.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=445

So far it is just a thread, but assuming interest starts picking up, I'm going to create another forum for it....

Also, feel free to drop in and offer any tips or advice that I may have missed :)
 
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:07 pm

Hmm...

Like this, maybe?

Forums in progress:
http://forum.example.com - drfish
http://example.net/forum - bhtooefr

Forums recruited:
http://example.org/forums - drfish

Failed attempts:
http://cpu-museum.de/forum - bhtooefr
http://forum.thinkpads.com - bhtooefr
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Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:39 pm

Well one machine is configured :-) we'll see how well it holds up... :-)
 
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Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:30 am

First post updated.

Lets find some more forums people! I want that list to grow. Anything's game, and you can suggest new ones even if you don't want to join them...
 
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Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:34 am

Registered at firing squad as well. Let's build up a post count 8)
 
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Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:11 am

Registered at firing squad as well.

Great! It is interesting that although I was a lurker there for quite a while, folding actually give me some motivation to get off my keister and start posting. Although there are a few members that belong to other teams, I haven't seen any talk about starting a folding team... yet :D
Even if they decide not to fold (for a competitive group like that, I would be surprised that they wouldn't) I'll still be involved with FS.
And with all that posting (NCIX too), I don't regret those typing classes I was forced to take! (it also helps to have a baby that doesn't sleep nights very well...)
(and thanks DrFish for them good words about my posts over there!)
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Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:24 am

bhtooefr - http://cpu-museum.de/forum - had already been extremely well established in the community. Attempted recruiting, only one was interested (the site admin) who wasn't already folding for another team
bhtooefr - http://forum.thinkpads.com - was established somewhat, attempted recruiting, one former folder was interested, but was concerned about fan noise
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bhtooefr - http://epiacenter.com - have been in community since August 2004, beginning further involvement to position for folding poll
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:52 pm

I'd love to be of help somehow, as it is I'm a poor student who can't afford a farm and I don't have people to borg.

So I thought I'd try find something down my way of the world but the major computer site here, http://www.overclockers.co.nz, has already had this discussed a year ago with no luck. There is a weak team but most either like there computers quiet or prefer to find little green men.

Also most of NZ is on dial-up due to exorbatant broadband costs making it more of a hassle to run. I know it can be done but most don't want to have to moniter there WU's then run a program whenever they finish. I will give some more general groups a go though.

Very open to sugestions.
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Hmm... I don't know how it behaves, but the F@H client can be set to ask when it finishes a WU, and specifically mentions that it's a good idea to enable it when on dial-up.
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bhtooefr wrote:
Hmm... I don't know how it behaves, but the F@H client can be set to ask when it finishes a WU, and specifically mentions that it's a good idea to enable it when on dial-up.


Hmm, I used to run F@H on dial-up, now I think about it I think you set it to ask before accessing the network and a dialouge box comes up when it is finished. You dial-up and click yes and wait for the activity to stop before disconnecting. So maybe its not so bad. I've just got to find a suitable forum to try.

Edit: I remember now, I always set the "Ask before connecting option" but it stopped working for me and I couldn't bring it back, so I monitered the WU with EMIII and ran a shortcut I set up that had a -sendall tag or something similar, that sent the data and downloaded the new WU. Never figured out what was wrong, but Im on BB now which is much easier.
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:36 pm

Probably new since you lasted ooked into it is the feature that's built into the client that allows you to get and send timeless tinker WUs in batches, it really helps make dial up folders simple.
 
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drfish wrote:
Probably new since you lasted ooked into it is the feature that's built into the client that allows you to get and send timeless tinker WUs in batches, it really helps make dial up folders simple.


That sounds handy. So that means you need one download for a few days worth of folding, or maybe weeks for slower machines/those not on 24/7?
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Update on progress:

Firing squad - due to forum problems, I (and many others) can't log back in at this time... so not much more news.

MatrixOwners - he's dead Jim! (maybe I'll try one more time...)

NCIX - 100 CPUs, 40 new team members, reaching 10K PPD and rapidly growing - not bad for 2.5 weeks ;) Sadly not folding under TR, but folding is folding no matter the team. When NCIX will start doing contests, I think the team will really grow quickly. And support from the forum admin makes a big difference. Of course it will take a long time to reach the top 100 teams.
I've done some work (under my NCIX user name of Zarg) setting up instructions & topics that you are free to use in other forums (I sure will).
http://forum.ncix.com/forums/index.php? ... &subpage=1
If you see an error in these post 8 and 9 of that thread, let me know and I'll correct it.
With non-tech sites, it is quite a bit more difficult to suggest folding due to mistrust of strange programs, and the non-windows type install for the console mode (and I can't advise people to use the windows graphics client due to the issues it creates on many computers). Hopefully f@h will put out a graphic-less Windows Graphic Client.
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Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:29 pm

Quick update on House An'geles.. so far it's been so-so recruiting.. one of them is checking with his corporate IT policy to see if he can get them to install folding on their corp computers (his friends are also the server admins and the IT department)

Otherwise it's going okay.. we're up to about 900ppd steady, and I'm going to try a couple different tactics to see about getting the computer savvy people to buy in... Last time one of them did it, he fried a CPU since it was chugging along at 100% and he didn't have a fan installed properly... it was fine for day to day use.. but 24/7 folding killed it... :)
 
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Re:

Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:27 pm

Tarx wrote:
Update on progress:
NCIX - 100 CPUs, 40 new team members, reaching 10K PPD and rapidly growing - not bad for 2.5 weeks ;) Sadly not folding under TR, but folding is folding no matter the team. ... Of course it will take a long time to reach the top 100 teams...

Fast forward a couple+ years and ...check out the teams on the threat list! Yup, NCIX is there! Yes, still a long way off ... for now.

For those that are going WTF... well way back, a few TR members including myself were trying to setup new teams (this thread is one part of that), preferably as a subteam to TR, but if not, then at least to help the folding project overall. The NCIX folding team was one of the more successful of those teams, but unfortunately (for TR at least) not as a subteam.

Now I do hope TR F@H team somehow finds a way to get its mojo back and return to its original goal to get into the top 5.
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Re: Operation F.A.D.D.

Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:52 pm

http://duelistgroundz.com im gonna have a go at. I have a five digit post count so it shouldnt be an issue.

DOnt know what else i can volunteer for.
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Re: Operation F.A.D.D.

Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:09 pm

Great! UGN needs competition!

General question - Is there currently (or plans for) a nice landing page/thread that we can point to for new possible subteams?

drfish - would you consider promoting FADD again?

p.s. I noticed that most people that have posted to this thread are still active TR members 8)
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Re: Operation F.A.D.D.

Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:53 pm

Tarx wrote:
Great! UGN needs competition!

General question - Is there currently (or plans for) a nice landing page/thread that we can point to for new possible subteams?

drfish - would you consider promoting FADD again?

p.s. I noticed that most people that have posted to this thread are still active TR members 8)

I ac tually didnt notice i was posting in an old thread
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Re: Operation F.A.D.D.

Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:54 am

pikaporeon wrote:
I actually didn't notice i was posting in an old thread

Yup! There are later threads about this, but this one had the best and most descriptive posts of what it was about.
I'd love to hear how the others did! The other active one I had worked with (as mentioned) was Firing Squad that went almost to the top 100 but then has slid back, partly as I didn't have time to work more on that team, and also nobody else there wanted to lead the team so far. It seems that the number of posts per month gives a rough indication of how a team is progress - FS folding thread is almost dormant, NCIX folding team has a few hundred posts per month, TR folding team has... not enough posts...

Despite the age of this thread (right around the official UGN thread started), I do hope that you give it a try, either under TR as a subteam or as its own team. And let us know how it goes!
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