The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:34 pm

axeman wrote:Okay, I fired up the Windows GPU client on my 8800GT to fold for UGN. Given the NVIDIA G92/94 problems, I figure I might as well start stress testing it. :) I had previously given up folding, the standard client PPD makes it hardly seem worth it, and I had poor success running the Linux client in a VM - this was with a Linux host running a Linux guest because the host OS was 32-bit - I think I only managed to ever complete one WU - there still is just one or two issues with 64 bit Linux to keep me on 32 bit... but running the GPU client on my often idle HTPC box with an 8800GT OC seems worth exploring.

The GPU2 client in that sense is pretty painless (for now), so your choice of client is good. Thanks for the help for UGN! :D

Ragnar Dan wrote:I'd also point out that Stanford has said on the Folding forum that they're going to move everything over to the new cores at some point, after they eventually release a new A1 core.

But once more I'd like to remind everyone that the most efficient production possible for the time being is available by getting a G92 card. Mine uses less than 50 watts and produces nearly half my points.
I would also point out that this is efficiency "points wise". Stanford also said the different client types work on different types of WUs, so they are different protein molecules. For the sake of science you need all the WUs being crunched.
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:46 pm

Welcome wabbit!! :D Let us know when Elmer gets close and we will try to be vewy vewy quiet! Hu-hu-hu-hu-hu-hu-hu................ :lol: :lol:


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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:38 pm

I finally managed to get the GPU client running on my machine, after I went ~8 months without any (Windows crashed, and the SMP client was a hassle).
Turns out the GPU client doesn't like to install properly on Vista 64 unless you've got UAC enabled...(?)
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:02 pm

Turns out the GPU client doesn't like to install properly on Vista 64 unless you've got UAC enabled...(?)


i didn't have that problem... installed just fine on my machine, runs cool... i keep UAC off because it's going on my nerves...
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:17 pm

Flying Fox wrote:
Saribro wrote:I've just added my A64 X2 3600+ to the mix, FAHSpy is projecting ~210 PPD. I'm running a GF7600GS, so no GPU-client for me (If I understood correctly).
I do feel the need to say, these clients are an utter disaster in usability.

You need to run the SMP client. 210ppd looks to be from a single core client.

It's 2 single core clients actually. FAHSpy is now projecting ~300 PPD. Not sure I'm ready to bother a beta client yet, considering my experiences so far (and I'm not counting VMs as an option).
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:30 pm

axeman wrote:Good god, this GPU2 client is a beast. I installed it less than 12 hours ago and it's on it's 3rd WU. I can't find out how many points these suckers are worth, though, the project is 5506.

Use FahMon or FahSpy to tell you the ppd of those things.

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Saribro wrote:I've just added my A64 X2 3600+ to the mix, FAHSpy is projecting ~210 PPD. I'm running a GF7600GS, so no GPU-client for me (If I understood correctly).
I do feel the need to say, these clients are an utter disaster in usability.

You need to run the SMP client. 210ppd looks to be from a single core client.

It's 2 single core clients actually. FAHSpy is now projecting ~300 PPD. Not sure I'm ready to bother a beta client yet, considering my experiences so far (and I'm not counting VMs as an option).
Did you turn on "large WU" when you are configuring the clients? It is the "Accept units more than 5MB in size" question I think. My single core client is running about 230 ppd doing Ambers, on a E2160@2.7GHz though.
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:51 pm

axeman wrote:According to fahspy, I should do 2900 ppd. Does that sound right for an 8800GT-512 ?

axeman wrote:the project is 5506.


I am not sure about project 5506. Someone who has worked on those can tell you.
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:57 pm

My 8800GTS 512MB card is working on a project 5506 atm. It is slightly OCed (factory) and FahMon says 5300 PPD. Under XP with 100% cpu usage on a core for the GPU2 client. 177.35 drivers
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:03 am

Flying Fox wrote:
Saribro wrote:It's 2 single core clients actually. FAHSpy is now projecting ~300 PPD. Not sure I'm ready to bother a beta client yet, considering my experiences so far (and I'm not counting VMs as an option).
Did you turn on "large WU" when you are configuring the clients? It is the "Accept units more than 5MB in size" question I think. My single core client is running about 230 ppd doing Ambers, on a E2160@2.7GHz though.

Linearly adjusting for clock, that's ~160 for 1.9Ghz of your single, so my ~300 for 2 singles seems allright.
The config just asks which size you prefer your workunits to be, small/normal/big, I chose big :).
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:58 am

All I can say is, WOW, we've really gotten a nice response to the TechReport's Call to Arms. This is by no means complete, but I noticed a few guys rocketing up the ranks this morning. I just did a quick view of the roster, so like I said this is not complete, but I thought it'd be nice to recognize some of the newer folders, so here it goes...

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As you can see from their rankings, these guys have just started folding, or just started back up folding. They are SOARING up the ranks. If you guys are reading this, let us know what F@H clients your running. Let's keep the membership drive going. TR still has a lot of threats that are putting out VERY high numbers. :x :x :x
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:14 am

dave doing a UGN recruitment call to those guys in 3...2....
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:23 pm

pikaporeon wrote:dave doing a UGN recruitment call to those guys in 3...2....



Now that you mention it... :D

Actually, I'm just glad people are contributing. That they are on team 2630 is the important part.
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:31 pm

That is awesome. TR is up to 533k ppd.

Folding@evga is at 526k ppd. Gotta keep them from gaining.
And Alliance Francophone is ranked 5th with 582k ppd. Their production is within reach.
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:12 pm

I have a laptop I am trying to get to run the SMP client. I can't install the WinSMP version, so I installed VMPlayer. I then took a copy of my Ubuntu build and copied it to the laptop. Then connected to the copy using VMPlayer. When I try to run it I get an error saying VT is not enabled. I looked in the BIOS and sure enough it wasn't. I enabled it. I still get the VT error though. Any thoughts on what may be causing that?
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:33 pm

What CPU do you have in that laptop?
If Intel, then that could be a problem as most Intel mobile cpus don't have VT. (AFAIK all 5500 and lower don't have VT, and a handful of higher end ones don't either).
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:39 am

Tarx wrote:What CPU do you have in that laptop?
If Intel, then that could be a problem as most Intel mobile cpus don't have VT. (AFAIK all 5500 and lower don't have VT, and a handful of higher end ones don't either).


It is a T7200. No idea if it should have VT or not, but it was an option in the BIOS.
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:01 am

If Windows was originally installed with VT disabled, it may be that the OS isn't set up to take advantage of it.
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:22 am

IIRC you need to enable a flag in the vmx file. Try this and see if it helps after you enable the BIOS option.
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:34 am

Flying Fox wrote:IIRC you need to enable a flag in the vmx file. Try this and see if it helps after you enable the BIOS option.


Thanks!. It'll have to wait till I get home. That laptop has been running the regular clients, so it'd be nice to get a healthy bump in ppd from it.
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:22 am

For those of you who would like to become FOLDING MONSTERS, check this deal out:

http://www.buy.com/prod/pny-geforce-980 ... 34756.html

9800GX2, good for over 10,000 PPD, for $259.99 US.
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:05 am

axeman wrote:
david00214 wrote:For those of you who would like to become FOLDING MONSTERS, check this deal out:

http://www.buy.com/prod/pny-geforce-980 ... 34756.html

9800GX2, good for over 10,000 PPD, for $259.99 US.


NCIX has 8600s on sale for 28.88 after MIR, those should do around 2k PPD if that's too rich for you. :P

edit: Whoops, I guess that was a time/quantity limited thing, good thing I already snagged one.


Well the thing I like about the 9800GX2 is that you'll also have a gaming powerhouse and maximizing the potential of your CPU... I plan on running two SMP clients on three cores and THREE GPU2 clients on 1 CPU core (three different GPUs of course) I can't wait to see what that does.

I knew there was a reason for my buying te PP&C 750 PSU
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:59 pm

Be careful folding on a laptop. I always worry about the batteries turning to crap when you keep them running for extended periods. Also, I think I read somewhere mention that you have to clean the dust out of 'em fairly often to keep temps within specs.

Here's the Intel procecessor finder link. If you choose Core 2 Duo Mobile or whatever, and then filter on Intel Virtualization Technology you'll see the 7200 listed, for whatever it's worth.
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:19 pm

If you shut the folding down when running on battery power I don't think it will stress the batteries any more than normal usage would.

I agree heat is a potential issue for laptops.
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:26 pm

I'm more thinking that running on outlet power for days on end will make the batteries always be maximally charged, and I forget which type do what any more. I know one type hated that and died an early death when you did that, and you had to charge fully and empty completely if you wanted them to live their normal lifespan. I think it may have been nickel metal hydride (NiMH?) or however you write it. I don't remember what lithium ion ones want, but no matter I'd bet you should do something, even if it only means draining them and then removing them to keep them cool or some such thing.
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:47 pm

NiCd are the ones which need to be deep-cycled to keep them in good shape. It's less of an issue with NiMH, and (IIRC) not an issue at all with Li-ion.

Edit: It appears that I was only partially correct. According to Wikipedia, Li-ion lifetime is shortened significantly by elevated temperatures. So if the laptop is running warm, and you're running it 24x7, yes you will likely cause your battery pack to die young.
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:38 am

Of course, it's perfectly possible to remove your battery from the laptop when it's plugged in. ;)
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:57 am

I don't fold on them all the time, and I do work off the socket a bit so the batteries have a chance to discharge (no folding on battery power is set)... I'm not worried.
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:50 pm

Well, I finally got around to installing the latest drivers and the GPU2 client from nvidia's website (it was part of that package thingy). Hopefully it should finish it's first WU in another hour or two. Debating whether or not to toss in a standard client as well.
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:58 pm

CampinCarl wrote:Well, I finally got around to installing the latest drivers and the GPU2 client from nvidia's website (it was part of that package thingy). Hopefully it should finish it's first WU in another hour or two. Debating whether or not to toss in a standard client as well.


It's definitely worth throwing in a standard client. You may even be able to get the SMP client running, but I'd make sure it doesn't detract from your GPU2 power. :D
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Re: The CALL to ARMS. What's your contribution?

Postposted on Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:40 pm

Well, I've decided to play it safe and just run an extra single-core client. F@HMon predicts a total PPD for them just shy of 2000 (1996.59). Not much, but something. Too bad Dell doesn't support the CUDA drivers for the 8600MGT yet.
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