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Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of folding problems

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:58 pm
by 00-Evan
Hello, I'm getting rather annoyed and this is why:

I'm running vista 64-bit, and my gpu2 folding client encounters an error constantly.

Over the past 2 weeks almost every other day I've had to tinker with the client to get it working, and at the moment it decides it'll work for one unit, then crash midway through the next. I'm wondering, is there a problem with the gpu2 client on ATI cards, or am i just having terrible luck?

EDIT: and yes, I've tried every fix. Some worked for a time then stopped working, some actually broke the client, but most did nothing.

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of problems

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:10 pm
by moriz
i'm not sure about this, but isn't gpu2 client for nvidia cards?

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of problems

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:11 pm
by 00-Evan
it was definitely tailored toward nvidia, but it works with ATI too.

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of problems

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:18 pm
by Pegasus
Could be that version of the graphics driver or the hardware is creating errors from an OC or parts of the GPU overheating. I'm not really sure tbh.
moriz wrote:
i'm not sure about this, but isn't gpu2 client for nvidia cards?

There are GPU2 clients for both ATI and Nvidia. In fact, the ATI version was out before the Nvidia (april 10th vs june 17th).

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of problems

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:19 pm
by 00-Evan
i have the latest drivers, i've already backed down my OC, my full laod temps are 60 degrees

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of problems

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:20 pm
by Pegasus
What about an older driver that is also known to work with folding@home? I'm not up to date on how the different ATI drivers are performing with the client but in general newest isn't always best.

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of problems

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:20 pm
by 00-Evan
if i swap to an older driver my fan speed will go back down and my card will hit 85C full load. Besides, I was getting the same problems with CAT 8.9

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of problems

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:51 pm
by HurgyMcGurgyGurg
I also have a 4870 with 64 bit vista, I'm using 8.8 drivers.

The GPU client works fine on it and I have yet to see a stall or a problem with not getting work units.

However, I do get Unstable Machine errors where it stops a unit and starts a new one.

From what I've read, this is a error on Stanford's part and the new long chain work units (The ones that get 4k ppd instead of 2k ppd) get this problem. They have said they are working on fixing it, but its been happening for well over a month.

The only thing I have noticed is that when the computer is not being used it is much more stable. For instance if I leave it on for a day and don't touch it, it will have no errors. But if I am using the computer and gaming on and off it will have errors. It is probably a snake oil cure but I have noticed a slight reduction of errors when I removed Rivatuner and made sure CCC was not active.

I take it however that you are having much more serious problems since the Unstable machine errors or early termination errors just cause a new work unit to download, no stalling or corruption.

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of problems

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:06 pm
by heyal256
Maybe you need to delete the FAhcore and have it re-download in case the core exe got corrupted?

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of problems

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:13 pm
by ReAp3r-G
as far as i know the 6.20r1 GPU2 client has both CUDA and CAL libraries and the 4870 should have no problem with using the GPU2 client

the only cards that i know for sure that have a problem with the GPU2 client is my very own card, the HD4670

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of problems

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:07 am
by 00-Evan
hurgy, that's roughly what I'm getting too.

and about deleting the core, let me say again, I've tried everything.

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of problems

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:14 am
by Fighterpilot
00-Evan wrote:
hurgy, that's roughly what I'm getting too.

and about deleting the core, let me say again, I've tried everything.

Sorry to hear about the problems...be nice if you could alter the post subject line to "Radeon HD4870,an absolute ton of folding problems tho.

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of problems

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:19 am
by 00-Evan
well it is in the folding forum so one would assume.

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of problems

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:35 am
by Jigar
00-Evan wrote:
well it is in the folding forum so one would assume.


Oh come on, you are hurting my friend's feeling ... :(

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of problems

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:46 am
by 00-Evan
alright alright, I'll change the title

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of problems

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:48 am
by Jigar
00-Evan wrote:
alright alright, I'll change the title


Thanks :D

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of folding problems

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:11 am
by Fighterpilot
Nice one Evan...thanks dude! 8)

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of folding problems

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:34 am
by mmmmmdonuts21
I have been having the same problem with my 4850. Stanford just released a new core 1.18 and many people are having the same problem. What has worked for some is putting the GPU client in Windows XP compatibility mode. This is done by right clicking the .exe of the GPU client and under properties you can change this to XP. Also if your GPU is overclocked it may also not work. So try using stock clocks.

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of folding problems

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:19 am
by 00-Evan
tried, that actually broke mine. My client seems to be fairly stable atm (touch wood) only EUE'ing one in every 2 or 3, and fairly early too.

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of folding problems

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:51 am
by Gerbil Jedidiah
Would now be a bad time to comment that I'm getting 8,000 PPD or better on my GTX 280?

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of problems

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:08 pm
by PRIME1
Fighterpilot wrote:
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Sorry to hear about the problems...be nice if you could alter the post subject line to "Radeon HD4870,an absolute ton of folding problems tho.

Sad, just sad.

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of folding problems

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:54 pm
by 00-Evan
david00214 wrote:
Would now be a bad time to comment that I'm getting 8,000 PPD or better on my GTX 280?

Yes... yes it would

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of folding problems

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:26 pm
by Gerbil Jedidiah
00-Evan wrote:
david00214 wrote:
Would now be a bad time to comment that I'm getting 8,000 PPD or better on my GTX 280?

Yes... yes it would


but... but... I couldn't help myself.

This might explain your problems http://folding.typepad.com/news/2008/09 ... 2-wus.html

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of folding problems

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:54 pm
by ReAp3r-G
try using the 6.20r1 client instead of the specific ATI client...it works better for now IMO IIRC :)

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of folding problems

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:55 pm
by fpsduck
I'm using 4850 with Catalyst 8.10.
Sometime the GPU client stopped without reason
but overall I can say it's ok for me.

Evan, don't give up on folding.
You are my nearest threats (if I don't stop or pause folding).
But if the problem bugs you a lot
then it's ok to take some break.

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of folding problems

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:32 pm
by 00-Evan
GAH! just got a 97% EUE, and no points for it! grr, I'm really getting sick of this...

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of folding problems

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:38 am
by fpsduck
Wow! Look at your rank
Now your rank is higher than me. :P

Re: Radeon HD 4780, an absolute ton of folding problems

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:32 pm
by 00-Evan
Yup, suckers running stably now.

Also, i'm getting a laptop with a 9600M gt in it for christmas, so expect my ppd to go from approx. 3500 to approx. 5500