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I read the post from BIF - status of folding - there's a piece that involves fun well. So is it too soon to talk about Frankie?

Nah, not too early. Everyone should get everything ready to go. We could start next weekend or so.

Like last year - I have the passkey for Frankie if anyone needs it. Just shoot me a PM and i'll get it back to you as soon as I can.

Yup, time to get ready. I've got a quad-core and a hex-core I can put in for the duration!

Here are some links for folks. These are direct links to downloads so don't click 'em unless you want a package. (I seriously dislike the redesign of their site)

Windows Installer

The OS X/Linux clients and other programs are split up and I don't want to link them all. Go here and click on "other platforms."

Here is the beta client page if anyone wants to use those. I used the v7 client in beta for a long time before it was released. Since a lot of people will only be folding for Frankie and not for any real consequence, I wouldn't hesitate to use one of these clients. Having said all that, Stanford does say that the OS X v7 client isn't all that stable. OS X users might avoid it if you can.

If anyone needs help getting things set up go ahead and post in here and we'll try to help.

We can start firing up Frankie now, I think.

Go go go!

e: Can we track everyone's individual contributions to Frankie by chance? I guess it might have to be done client side, but it can work.

Is this a secret project, or can others play too?

(In other words, what is Frankie 2012 and where can I find out more?)

BIF wrote:

Is this a secret project, or can others play too?

(In other words, what is Frankie 2012 and where can I find out more?)

The point is THAT you play!

We all fold under one name for the month of October for fun. http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/ ... s=&u=94472

Load up your client team 2630 user TRFrankenbot and fold away!

Can someone PM the TRFrankenbot passkey? I have it from last year but it is not working on this i7-970 hex core. The points are not show up in extreme folding. Just want to make sure I have the right key. The GPU is running and it's points are showing up. I will just reinstall the SMP under Linux.

Happy Halloween,
Fuzzhead

Shifted 1/3 of my slowish GPU (~1100 PPD) over to Frankie. Will shift another third on the tenth and go all in on the twentieth. Some single core WUs will also trickle his way.

Would like to add another GPU system, but spare time is going to be hard to find this month.

Never mind on the PM for the passkey. I just learned there was a r in TRFrankenbot. At least the TR still received the points. Putting about 30k+ for fRank!

Regards,
Fuzzhead

fuzzhead wrote:

Never mind on the PM for the passkey. I just learned there was a r in TRFrankenbot. At least the TR still received the points. Putting about 30k+ for fRank!

Regards,
Fuzzhead

I PM'd you the passkey yesterday anyway.

Go Frankie!

Oh I get it; Halloween, October, Frankenstein, Frankenbot, Frankie. Clever!

Would somebody please PM me a passkey? I'll set it up on my Windows 8 90-day Trial rig. It's doing nothing but sitting on a shelf at the moment anyway, and yet it should be good for all of October!

Question 1: Can I set up clients for both CPU and GPU simultaneously?
Question 2: I'm interested to see how much it warms up the home office but I also want to be sure I don't cause overheating problems if I'm running Folding in my home office while I'm at work or sleeping. Is it possible to set up a governor of some sort?

Question 3: Is there an FAQ that can answer newbie technical issues, such as questions 1 and 2 above? I'll self-educate as needed.

I'm using a Q6600 and an Asus P5KC motherboard. Win 8 64 bit and 8 GB RAM. I have a Radeon 53xx (I think). The whole rig is almost 7 years old except for the graphic card, which I think is about 3 or 4 years old.

Thanks!

BIF wrote:

Oh I get it; Halloween, October, Frankenstein, Frankenbot, Frankie. Clever!

Would somebody please PM me a passkey? I'll set it up on my Windows 8 90-day Trial rig. It's doing nothing but sitting on a shelf at the moment anyway, and yet it should be good for all of October!

Question 1: Can I set up clients for both CPU and GPU simultaneously?
Question 2: I'm interested to see how much it warms up the home office but I also want to be sure I don't cause overheating problems if I'm running Folding in my home office while I'm at work or sleeping. Is it possible to set up a governor of some sort?

Question 3: Is there an FAQ that can answer newbie technical issues, such as questions 1 and 2 above? I'll self-educate as needed.

I'm using a Q6600 and an Asus P5KC motherboard. Win 8 64 bit and 8 GB RAM. I have a Radeon 53xx (I think). The whole rig is almost 7 years old except for the graphic card, which I think is about 3 or 4 years old.

Thanks!

I just sent you the passkey.

1. Yes.
2. You can tell it how much of each core to use. As long as you have a decent cooler you'll be fine.
2a. That graphics card isn't going to put up much PPD. You can get it folding if you want, but if you have issues or anything it's not like it will be a big loss.

3. Yes.
FAQ - http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ
Installation uides - http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Guide

Roger that!

Got the PM and already responded; thanks. I always forget the Asus laptop; being a Sandy Bridge i7, he can probably contribute a lot more work units than the desktop; maybe even by an order of magnitude.

You probably don't want to run it on a laptop. Whilst the CPU will handle the heat, it's going to heat everything else up in there and may cause premature failure to something else like the HDD or PSU.

Yeah, Jack expressed a similar concern in his PM to me.

I'll be careful with the laptop and maybe throttle it down. I'm mostly just curious.

And also looking forward to my desktop hardware upgrade maybe later this month.

I'm cuckoo for cores, cuckoo for cores!

Update:

I have two machines folding for TRFrankenbot, whoohoo!

Both machines initially pegged at 100% CPU and both were using the GPU slot; it seems that they are making good use of the GPUs, which pleased me to discover this.

The Asus laptop (I think it's either a G71 or a G73, something like that) on Win 7 64 bit is truly a screamer. The SMP slot seems to get HUGE work units (8 threads) and the Nvidia 460 seems to really eat up it's fair share of work units too. The tower machine (Q6600), using Windows 8 RTM/90Day Trial, is no slouch, but is most definitely not in the same class as the Asus' i7 processor.

I was concerned about the heat, though; especially with the CPUs all pegged at 100%. The laptop's dual fans were blowing hot air right from the rear ports from the get-go and the tower was generating some heat from the water radiator (though not scalding hot). I played with the settings on both machines and I got them both down to 75% CPU utilization, which seems to have reduced the temps a bit (but I didn't do any scientific analysis of either system).

On the laptop, I'm using 6 of 8 threads up around 80% and the other two threads are down around 20-30%.
On the desktop, I'm using 3 of 4 threads around 80% and the other thread is also down around 20%.

I feel better about leaving some headroom, especially since my central AC is set to 83 F during the day when I'm at work. When I get home I'll check the status of things and I'll decide how hard to run the laptop going forward I probably won't run the laptop 24/7, but I can run the workstation 24/7 (as long as I don't need my production systems).

I cut through a couple of WUs overnight, and this morning, I noticed that the laptop got one WU with a 1.2 day estimate. Wow. I never knew I'd have so much fun learning about this.

If I decide to continue folding funder my own name after October, I'll have to choose a unique username. "BIF" has apparently already been used to fold (but not by me, I'm a newbie at this).

Fun stuff. Hopefully I won't get home to find two computers with liquified CPUs.

It's alive, and back to top 20 producers too!

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/ ... s=&u=94472

LOL!

Well, if I keep my machines from going into sleep mode, I'll be able to put up 21,000 points per day for Frankie.

Haha, live and learn...

Another 5000ppd added, at least as long as my PC doesn't over heat (getting warmer down here in Nu Zaland).

Haha, what a blast.

For me thus far...

21,295 credits - i7 Laptop
07,003 credits - Q6600
---------
28,298 Total

Both machines are throttled to approximately 75% of CPU capacity.

Hope interest builds. After 5 days we are no where close to being on track to match last years total. Just under 5 million points in Oct 2011. Wish I had a GPU.

BIF wrote:

Well, if I keep my machines from going into sleep mode, I'll be able to put up 21,000 points per day for Frankie.

Set to Never Sleep in your power profile.

PhilipMcc wrote:

Wish I had a GPU.

My 660 is on its way from Newegg's California warehouse. Not only I can now spam wizard lightnings, I guess I can fold too.

I had to boot back into Windows 7 this weekend on the workstation, so he hasn't been folding all weekend. He can only put up a maximum of 6,500 PPD anyway. He frequently gets units of work that return either 2785 points or 203 points and finish in 6 to 10 hours.

The constant blowing from the laptop got me nervous, so yesterday evening I let it finish up the work units it was doing; I am probably up to 34,000 points with that system. I'll probably start both machines up again today and let them run for another day; whatever time the laptop needs to finish its big SMP work units. He often receives SMP work units that take 1.2 days and return ~8,500 points (5,000+ are bonus points), so I'll let him run those to completion. His GPU work units usually return 1,200 to 2,500 points and those often take 6 to 8 hours.

I can never remember the stats on the i7, so today I looked them up:

Model Asus G73S. It's about a year old. I know because I recently extended my "Lojack for Laptops" subscription. Yeah, I hate subscriptions. But I hate thieves more.
CPU - Core i7 2630QM
GPU - Nvidia Geforce GTX 460M
Memory - I added memory to it; it has 12 MB right now
Main HDD - Seagate 750 GB 7200 RPM; this is not big enough for running DAW software (well, software, yes...but not big sample libraries), so when I go someplace with a MIDI keyboard, I bring along two external USB 3.0 7200 RPM laptop drives that have my samples. One is 750 GB and the other is 500 GB.

This laptop has no ability to use a docking port.
The GPU cannot use DVI but has one HDMI port; so no eyefinity equivalent.
The laptop has USB 2.0 and 3.0 built in.

I was out of town for work most of this past week, so I didn't get around to it. I'll crank up a few systems now.

Edit: Just turned up 3 systems (approx 40K PPD aggregate) for Frankie - http://justbrewit.net/folding/nodestat.html

Hmmm, I just saw this oddity. It wasn't there a few days ago, unless it just never occurred to me to scroll down. Looks like it was from 2010.

Donor TRFrankenbot
Team Grid Balance (2360)
Score 1722 (certificate)
Donor Rank 781647 of 1655087
WU 5 (certificate)
Date of last
work unit 2010-10-13 22:10:23
Active clients
(within 50 days) 0
Active clients
(within 7 days) 0

As of this writing, my machines have been folding for about 6 hours now.

"Stealth Fighter" is currently working on an SMP work unit with a remaining ETA of 2.3 days (12,000 points), and a smaller GPU work unit with an ETA of "only" 18 hours (5,500 points).
"Old Man" is back up on windows 8 and is busy working on an SMP one with an ETA now of 1.3 days and another with 3.5 hours. The former will bring 4092 credits and the latter will add 1800 points. Compared to prior work units on this system, 1.3 DAYS (it started out six hours ago at 1.5 days) seems like a very long run for only 4K points.

BIF wrote:

Hmmm, I just saw this oddity. It wasn't there a few days ago, unless it just never occurred to me to scroll down. Looks like it was from 2010. <snip>

Yeah, I vaguely remember that happening. Someone obviously fumble-fingered the team number!

BIF wrote:

"Old Man" is back up on windows 8 and is busy working on an SMP one with an ETA now of 1.3 days and another with 3.5 hours. The former will bring 4092 credits and the latter will add 1800 points. Compared to prior work units on this system, 1.3 DAYS (it started out six hours ago at 1.5 days) seems like a very long run for only 4K points.

Are you running with the passkey (to get the SMP early turn-in bonus)? If so, running two SMP units on the same system is likely to be counter-productive. On a reasonably fast machine, the bonuses can account for the bulk of the points awarded (provided the WUs are turned around quickly).

If you want to get some idea, take a look at my personal monitoring page (linked in my previous post). It shows the base points for each WU currently being worked on and also gives an estimate of total points with bonus (given the current rate of progress).

BIF wrote:

"Old Man" is back up on windows 8 and is busy working on an SMP one with an ETA now of 1.3 days and another a GPU work unit with an ETA 3.5 hours...

just brew it! wrote:

Are you running with the passkey (to get the SMP early turn-in bonus)? If so, running two SMP units on the same system is likely to be counter-productive. On a reasonably fast machine, the bonuses can account for the bulk of the points awarded (provided the WUs are turned around quickly).

LOL, you caught me mangling the English language.

I am indeed only running one SMP and one GPU slot on each machine. But thank you for the description because I didn't know that anyhow.

Status update please. Who's still folding for Frankie?

My little "folding garden" (it's way too small to call it a "farm") has been going since Sunday afternoon. I estimate that I've put up probably 50,000 points since I started folding last week, but won't know for sure without analyzing my log files.

I'm probably going to hit "finish" soon and let both machines finish up their current work units and take a break for a few days.

Observation:

It seems to me that both of my machines suddenly are working longer for fewer points. Last week I was bringing in 21,000 points per day but now that has fallen to 17,000 or so. Both machines are working a 2.5 days (24-ish hours more) on their respective SMP workunits, and for fewer points than last week. GPU work units seem to also take slightly longer but are returning roughly the same number of points as before.

BIF wrote:

Status update please. Who's still folding for Frankie?

My little "folding garden" (it's way too small to call it a "farm") has been going since Sunday afternoon. I estimate that I've put up probably 50,000 points since I started folding last week, but won't know for sure without analyzing my log files.

I'm probably going to hit "finish" soon and let both machines finish up their current work units and take a break for a few days.

Observation:

It seems to me that both of my machines suddenly are working longer for fewer points. Last week I was bringing in 21,000 points per day but now that has fallen to 17,000 or so. Both machines are working a 2.5 days (24-ish hours more) on their respective SMP workunits, and for fewer points than last week. GPU work units seem to also take slightly longer but are returning roughly the same number of points as before.

Still got my 3 systems going. I appear to be averaging around 35K PPD right now. It fluctuates a bit day-to-day, but is typically in the 30-40K PPD range.