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TurtlePerson2 wrote:If money is tight, then use your current monitor for a while or pick one up secondhand that can last you for a little while (I used a $10 CRT for a while after I built my first computer).
wibeasley wrote:Welcome to TR. Thanks for dedicating so much time to the formatting of your post -it was so nice and easy to read.
A 19" monitor would drive me crazy.
Consider downgrading your CPU and upgrading your monitor.
Here's some cheaper memory:
Here's a slightly cheaper motherboard.
If I were looking for a wireless adapter, I might want 802.11n speed and I might want to use a PCIe slot...
The Green Fairy wrote:Take a second look at this opinion, especially for a $1,000 build. I have mostly Intel CPUs (some by choice and some by accident), but I would discard them quickly if it meant getting a 24" monitor instead of a 19".I thought about going with an i3-530 but the i5-750 is close enough in price that it's really too good a deal to pass up. As for AMD... Well I just don't think that their CPUs are as good as the current Intel chips.
wibeasley wrote:...but I would discard them quickly if it meant getting a 24" monitor instead of a 19".
I guess at this point it would be best if you mentioned what you'll be doing with this computer.
The Green Fairy wrote:TurtlePerson2 wrote:If money is tight, then use your current monitor for a while or pick one up secondhand that can last you for a little while (I used a $10 CRT for a while after I built my first computer).
That's my current plan and, yes, I'll deficiently be getting a 1920x1080 or 1680x1050 rez one when I do that.
JustAnEngineer wrote:$128 Gigabyte GA-P55-USB3 LGA1156 motherboard
$200 -10 combo Intel Core i5-750 quad-core 2.66 GHz LGA1156 processor
or $120 Intel Core i3-530 dual-core hyper-threading 2.93 GHz LGA1156 processor w/ on-package IGP
$105 2x2 GiB PC3-12800 G.Skill F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL (DDR3-1600, CAS 9)
$160 XFX Radeon HD5770 1GB
$56 500 GB Western Digital WD5000AAKS Caviar Blue/SE16
$24 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-RW
$30 Asus PCE-N13 wireless adapter
$80 Antec NSK4482B w/ EA380D PSU
or $110 -20 MIR Antec Sonata III w/ EA500 PSU
$0 existing Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
$169 Acer X223WDbd 22" 1680x1050 TN LCD monitor w/ DVI
or $249 +tax Dell UltraSharp 2209WA 22" 1680x1050 IPS LCD monitor w/ DVI
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$942, delivered
If you need keyboard, mouse and speakers, we'll go with a lesser CPU to stay under $950.
JustAnEngineer wrote:$128 Gigabyte GA-P55-USB3 LGA1156 motherboard
$200 -10 combo Intel Core i5-750 quad-core 2.66 GHz LGA1156 processor
or $120 Intel Core i3-530 dual-core hyper-threading 2.93 GHz LGA1156 processor w/ on-package IGP
$105 2x2 GiB PC3-12800 G.Skill F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL (DDR3-1600, CAS 9)
$160 XFX Radeon HD5770 1GB
$56 500 GB Western Digital WD5000AAKS Caviar Blue/SE16
$24 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-RW
$30 Asus PCE-N13 wireless adapter
$80 Antec NSK4482B w/ EA380D PSU
or $110 -20 MIR Antec Sonata III w/ EA500 PSU
$0 existing Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
$169 Acer X223WDbd 22" 1680x1050 TN LCD monitor w/ DVI
or $249 +tax Dell UltraSharp 2209WA 22" 1680x1050 IPS LCD monitor w/ DVI
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$942, delivered
If you need keyboard, mouse and speakers, we'll go with a lesser CPU to stay under $950.
JustAnEngineer wrote:
JustAnEngineer wrote:If you follow the steps here, you can probably get the UltraSharp 2209WA for $212 +tax with free shipping.
scare wrote:To go from TN to IPS is worth stretching for.
You will not be able to use the integrated graphics with that motherboard. I'd consider an H55/H57 mobo. Then you'd at least have video available should you need to take out your videocard.
JustAnEngineer wrote:Crap, I always forget Scott's 9800 isn't stock. I actually thought about the 5770 and quickly checked that article -I decided the price/perfomance difference wasn't big enough to meddle in that GPU decision. I'm sure this isn't the first time I learned (and forgot) that.Note that the GeForce GTS 250 1GB in TR's charts is a factory "super-overclocked" card (even though the charts don't show it) compared to a stock-clocked Radeon HD5770 (even though you can buy mildly-overclocked Radeon HD5770s). A super-clocked GeForce card like TR tested runs slightly faster, has twice as much memory and costs more than 60% more than the GeForce 9800GTX+ 512MB card that you linked.
JustAnEngineer wrote:I'd suggest starting out with the Core i3 if you need to save money.
If you want to upgrade to a Core i7 Lynnfield later, that's an easy drop-in replacement on your LGA1156 motherboard.
With PC3-12800 memory, you should be able to overclock the Core i3 significantly to boost its performance.
An even cheaper alternative would be to switch from LGA1156 to socket-AM3...
GeForce 9800GTX is just a renamed GeForce 8800GT. It was later re-renamed GeForce 9800GTX+ and then re-re-renamed GeForce GTS250.
A super-clocked GeForce card like TR tested runs slightly faster, has twice as much memory and costs more than 60% more than the GeForce 9800GTX+ 512MB card that you linked.
Airmantharp wrote:While I know JAE and others have put some work in trying to get you what you want in your budget, I see you commenting in more than one place that you're willing to buy parts now that will be 'upgraded soon'. This may work, depending on your income, but isn't realistic- I think the best advice is to wait until you can afford what you actually want and will keep for more than 6 months, instead of wasting money (it's wasted even if you resell it) on parts that will only get you by.
The Green Fairy wrote:http://www.gigabyte.us/Support/Motherbo ... uctID=3323JustAnEngineer wrote:Now if I did that would I have to flash the BIOS on the motherboard before I would be able use install the CPU?I'd suggest starting out with the Core i3 if you need to save money.
JustAnEngineer wrote:The Green Fairy wrote:http://www.gigabyte.us/Support/Motherbo ... uctID=3323JustAnEngineer wrote:Now if I did that would I have to flash the BIOS on the motherboard before I would be able use install the CPU?I'd suggest starting out with the Core i3 if you need to save money.
You are good to go, right out of the box, for any currently-shipping LGA 1156 Clarkdale or Lynnfield processor.
JustAnEngineer wrote:I would definitely choose the combination of the Core i3-530 and Radeon HD5770 1GB over the Core i5-750 and GeForce 9800GTX+ 512MB.
The Green Fairy wrote:I understand this attitude. I rarely overclock my own systems anymore. Damage was able to run his Core i3-530 at 4.4 GHz = 150% of design. A modest 20% overclock to 3.5 GHz could be easy, if you decide to try it. If you do decide to overclock, wait until you've got your PC up and running successfully at stock speed for a few days before cranking up the overclock.JustAnEngineer wrote:I could overclock if I needed to but would rather not.With PC3-12800 memory, you should be able to overclock the Core i3 significantly to boost its performance.