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The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:23 pm

I think when I first started Folding for TR we were 3rd or 4th , now we stand at 15 worldwide, wth happened?
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:51 pm

I honestly thought this was a Nine Inch Nails thread. <Slowly backing away>
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:03 pm

I think they all went turncoat to OCN.
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:27 pm

Yeah, but at least we finally passed Team Rage 3D and left them behind ...
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:46 am

We don't have anyone with the time to really build up an "advertising campaign", so to speak, so it sort of dies off without enough new people joining. That, and a lot of people seem to have had trouble with the original Windows SMP client back whenever it was released, and were angry about it and quit, and then a few others who were major parts of the team got upset when GPU's and even SMP clients could blow by their machines, which were comprised of dozens of "borged" single core machines and had been running for years.

I think if a few people got together and started building up a campaign in a thread, and anyone's contribution would be a possible addition, we could probably get TR to give us a front page story now and then when everything else in their field is relatively quiescent.
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:00 am

May be taking another downward hit, as I am going to have to bow out in a month or so.
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:53 pm

MaxTheLimit wrote:May be taking another downward hit, as I am going to have to bow out in a month or so.

What is happening? Hope it is nothing too bad.

And I can't buy a Sandy Bridge system to put the -bigadv hurt to UGN yet...
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:33 pm

Where do we go to sign up?
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:43 pm

skialex25 wrote:Where do we go to sign up?


Go to Folding@home and download whichever client works best for you. There's alot of info here at TR in this forum describing what to do,certainly better than I can do for you.Most if not all these guys are better at it than me and I'm sure will answer any questions you have!
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:58 pm

Flying Fox wrote:
MaxTheLimit wrote:May be taking another downward hit, as I am going to have to bow out in a month or so.

What is happening? Hope it is nothing too bad.

And I can't buy a Sandy Bridge system to put the -bigadv hurt to UGN yet...


Nothing bad, somewhat good actually...but expensive. Haha.

At any rate, I plan on running it as long as possible. I will be creating a thread offering up the node, the case, the monitor mouse, and keyboard to a good home.
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:14 pm

rogue426 wrote:
skialex25 wrote:Where do we go to sign up?

Go to Folding@home and download whichever client works best for you. There's alot of info here at TR in this forum describing what to do,certainly better than I can do for you.Most if not all these guys are better at it than me and I'm sure will answer any questions you have!

FYI the Folding@home site has lots of info about the project in general and downloads of the client software.

What kind of systems do you have? For multi-core CPU(s) your best bet is to run one of the SMP clients, which can be installed on Windows, Linux, and Mac. The GPU client is also an option if you've got one of the supported GPUs. There are also "classic" (single-threaded) clients for Windows and Linux if you want to run it on older systems.
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:14 am

I was going to start folding for UGN, but I couldn't get my GPU to fold. It would run a WU, then say that my system wasn't stable enough, and I had to wait 24 hours to try another WU. That kept repeating. Everything is running at stock speeds. I was trying to fold on a 9800 GTX+. Go figure.
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:35 am

Buzzard44 wrote:I was going to start folding for UGN, but I couldn't get my GPU to fold. It would run a WU, then say that my system wasn't stable enough, and I had to wait 24 hours to try another WU. That kept repeating. Everything is running at stock speeds. I was trying to fold on a 9800 GTX+. Go figure.

If you are using the E8400 at 3.0GHz in your sig, then just running the SMP client will net you about 1800-2000 ppd (early return bonus on the A3 WUs). Not bad for 65W processor. The 9800GTX+ will be at least double the power with what, 6000-8000ppd? It will be too loud though.

Should you decide to fold for UGN, PM me or MaxTheLimit and we can send you the passkey to get that bonus.
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:49 am

Buzzard44 wrote:I was going to start folding for UGN, but I couldn't get my GPU to fold. It would run a WU, then say that my system wasn't stable enough, and I had to wait 24 hours to try another WU. That kept repeating. Everything is running at stock speeds. I was trying to fold on a 9800 GTX+. Go figure.


I had the same problem, I will check to see which client I finally got to work on my GTS 450 when I get home tonight.

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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:51 pm

I got out of folding back in the unstable SMP client days. Running a single cpu was just not worth the energy.
I jumped back in 2 weeks ago with the new smp client w/passkey. I am adding about 24,000 ppd so far.
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:11 pm

Flying Fox wrote:Should you decide to fold for UGN, PM me or MaxTheLimit and we can send you the passkey to get that bonus.

Or if you want I could send you a WHOLE folding node :D
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:37 pm

Right now I'm folding with the GPU client for my Radeon 6870 and getting around 3500 ppd, combined with my PS3. Should I switch to the SMP client instead? It's been a long time since I got into folding in depth, so I'm not up on what the best way to do it is now.
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:45 pm

What processor?
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:58 pm

MaxTheLimit wrote:What processor?


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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:00 pm

Well that 2600k has 8 threads. So if it does as well as the previous quad core HT CPUs from intel, SMP would be the way to go.
I think...
Should give the bigadv a try...
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:06 pm

Definitely give the 2600k a shot. SMP and -bigadv. OC that thing first!
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:10 pm

So, download the "Windows: V6 Beta SMP2/CPU client" from the high performance clients page?

Do I have to run a separate instance of the client for each core/thread that I have?

Is -bigadv the new version of the old -advmethods flag?
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:42 am

astrotech66 wrote:So, download the "Windows: V6 Beta SMP2/CPU client" from the high performance clients page?
I think so.

astrotech66 wrote:Do I have to run a separate instance of the client for each core/thread that I have?
No need anymore, and no more mpicore business with WinSMP. The A3 core now spawns multiple threads within one process, and the official installation guide mentions that you can again run as a Windows service just like the old single core client days.

astrotech66 wrote:Is -bigadv the new version of the old -advmethods flag?
You kind of need both I think, at least I specify both. If you don't have -bigadv you will just not get the really fat ones. You also need to put "-smp 7" or "-smp 8" because the big fat tasty WUs require at least 7 threads to run. For reference my i7-875K @2.93GHz does ~20k ppd for the really fat ones. With increased clocks and higher IPC, I'm hoping you will get even better. If you are consistently doing 20k ppd you will be in our top 20 producers, easy. ;)

Ninja edit: keep in mind if you have never tried the A3 units before, you will need to get your username a passkey, apply the passkey during -config/-configonly, and fold 10 regular WUs before the big ones come. Good luck and see you on the leaderboard!
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:35 am

Great, thanks for all the info! Hopefully I can get it all figured out soon.
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:17 pm

I remoted in to my home computer and downloaded and installed the SMP client. Apparently I'm going to need a more robust cooling solution, though. With all eight threads pegged at 100% my CPU temp goes up to 67C. I don't think I want to run it that hot 24 hours a day.
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:24 pm

astrotech66 wrote:I remoted in to my home computer and downloaded and installed the SMP client. Apparently I'm going to need a more robust cooling solution, though. With all eight threads pegged at 100% my CPU temp goes up to 67C. I don't think I want to run it that hot 24 hours a day.


You can still run just fine at 67C. I'd keep letting it fold until you get a new cooler! ;) I agree though. I wouldn't want my CPU running that hot all the time.
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:24 pm

If it is CoreTemp/RealTemp reported temperature I would think 67C is ok. If it is motherboard reported temperature (sensor outside of the CPU package) then I would be worried.
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:43 pm

Flying Fox wrote:If it is CoreTemp/RealTemp reported temperature I would think 67C is ok. If it is motherboard reported temperature (sensor outside of the CPU package) then I would be worried.


It's the CPU temp being reported by the Asus utility, which has a CPU temp and a separate motherboard temp, if I remember correctly. And I get a nice red popup warning me that "CPU temp is 67 degrees!"

I'll play with it some more when I get home.
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:47 pm

You could try dropping that voltage down. I have my i7 860 @3.2 with a 1.15 vcore.
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Re: The Downward Spiral

Postposted on Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:47 am

I had the CPU multiplier set to 46, so it was running all four cores at 4.6 GHz. I lowered it to 42 and that dropped the temps down to 52-60C, so I can live with that for awhile.
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