Personal computing discussed
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The Lord of the Flies wrote:Well I guess I would do that backup if it could be done. All of my drives are already too full with not even enough space to defrag them, much less backup everything onto...somewhere hehehe
OTOH Jesus Christ, is the risk really that large? ??? Not to mention backing up all of everything would probably be quite some bit of work anyway! All that, just to give my computer a cleaning? Hey, there's no way in hell that I would do all that again and again everytime I just wanted to use a cleaner! And would I have to double up on whatever HDD space I may have, upon which everything should be backed up! That's costly too! No way! Mine olde Commodore 64 nearly thirty years ago was never, ever so laborious for anything! And I thought computers were supposed to be labor-savers! I mean doing all that seems a costly and time-consuming bitch of a chore at best, just to clean out the computer!
Gee, there MUST be a better, more efficient and direct way that cleaning my system can be done! ??? If using such programs can be risky to that extreme, how good can they be? Someone please tell me that a more reasonable and viable way exists!
just brew it! wrote:$120 2 TB Hitachi HDS722020ALA330 Deskstar 7K2000 (7200 rpm)Step 1: Get a bigger hard drive.
anotherengineer wrote:I have found that malwarebytes free does a good job of cleaning out nasties that a lot of other ones miss.
http://www.malwarebytes.org/
The Lord of the Flies wrote:All your data drives can just be unplugged when nuking from orbit (NFO), so they don't need to be backed up. How much other pr0nstuff do you have? I am sure a 1TB drive would be plenty, no?Well I guess I would do that backup if it could be done. All of my drives are already too full with not even enough space to defrag them, much less backup everything onto...somewhere hehehe
The Lord of the Flies wrote:If you don't know what you are doing, there is a possibility that you can make the OS unbootable. While you won't lose your precious pr0ndata, but is that not risky enough?OTOH Jesus Christ, is the risk really that large? ???
The Lord of the Flies wrote:Well, to run those "cleaners" you probably don't need a full backup, they were talking in the context of NFO. You are wiping at least 1 partition so that partition needs to be backed up of course. BTW, this points to the fact that you have not been doing regular maintenance on your system and now you are just paying the price. Sorry to sound like an ass but if you have a house so dirty with insects/rats/etc crawling and stuff you are going to spend a lot of effort "just to clean it". Same idea here. You let this situation happen I am afraid. You did not spend the effort to keep your system clean and snappy and now it is payback time, very much like taking out a loan.Not to mention backing up all of everything would probably be quite some bit of work anyway! All that, just to give my computer a cleaning? Hey, there's no way in hell that I would do all that again and again everytime I just wanted to use a cleaner!
gerbilspy wrote:Here is a question: if CCleaner "accidentally" zaps some important registry stuff that Windows will not even boot, how do you go about restoring from CCleaner? Do they come with a command-line Restore mode program? It does not seem to be the case so there is still a risk (though to be fair I would say most of the time Safe Mode should still work so this is a very crazy scenario).I have used CCleaner for years and have never had a problem with it. Go ahead, use it, and you will free up hundreds of MB of space that had been used by temp files and other such crap. Also use the registry cleaner included. Use it's built in registry backup tool before letting it fix the problems it finds.
gerbilspy wrote:At least from the sound of it, the OP was lazy and now he needs to pay back the principle+interests. All those times backup's, defrag's, and uninstalling unused crap that should be done and not performed all these years? It is finally catching up to him.If your HDD are so full they can't be defragged, this is also a problem that is slowing you down BIG TIME. You need to dump some of the less frequently used, less important data. You need about 25% of each drive "free" if you don't want performance to suffer.
Flying Fox wrote:In that case...I am sure a 1TB drive would be plenty, no?
anotherengineer wrote:I have found that malwarebytes free does a good job of cleaning out nasties that a lot of other ones miss.
http://www.malwarebytes.org/
The Lord of the Flies wrote:Well I guess I would do that backup if it could be done. All of my drives are already too full with not even enough space to defrag them, much less backup everything onto...somewhere hehehe
OTOH Jesus Christ, is the risk really that large? ??? Not to mention backing up all of everything would probably be quite some bit of work anyway! All that, just to give my computer a cleaning? Hey, there's no way in hell that I would do all that again and again everytime I just wanted to use a cleaner! And would I have to double up on whatever HDD space I may have, upon which everything should be backed up! That's costly too! No way! Mine olde Commodore 64 nearly thirty years ago was never, ever so laborious for anything! And I thought computers were supposed to be labor-savers! I mean doing all that seems a costly and time-consuming bitch of a chore at best, just to clean out the computer!
Gee, there MUST be a better, more efficient and direct way that cleaning my system can be done! ??? If using such programs can be risky to that extreme, how good can they be? Someone please tell me that a more reasonable and viable way exists!
Ryu Connor wrote:Most registry cleaners only focus on HKCU. As such there's not an immense amount of danger for it cleaning that up. It is on the other hand a bit of a waste of time. HKCU is a per user registry hive, the registry itself is also a load on demand design. So there really isn't much, if any, performance to be gained by pruning it.
gerbilspy wrote:Okay, I've been doing this. I have 3 HDDs; my Primary Drive that hold the OS has ~38.33GB of total capacity; the First Auxiliary Drive has ~466GB; and my Secondary Auxiliary, and external HDD via USB Frankensteined onto the system, ~112GB.If your HDD are so full they can't be defragged, this is also a problem that is slowing you down BIG TIME. You need to dump some of the less frequently used, less important data. You need about 25% of each drive "free" if you don't want performance to suffer.
LOL no, no, steps such as those are fine. And I know that computers need a bit of periodic maintenance. That's of course reasonable and I'll never bitch about that. But you must admit that that's a rather different story than risking everything, eh.If these simple steps are too much trouble, just quit bitching about it.
Computers are machines that need maintenance in order to maintain their "like new" performance. Just like a car
or lawn mower. You wouldn't run a car out of oil would you?
just brew it! wrote:Yes, yes, that's in the queue! There was that tread I wrote about that. I bookmarked a very nice deal on what appears to be a very good HDD that some good fella recommended, along with that adapter-thing that you, yourself recommended. I hope to get both next month. But meanwhile....Step 1: Get a bigger hard drive.
anotherengineer wrote:Yeah, maybe that will be the one I try after I finish freeing up space. Thanks, man.
Flying Fox wrote:No, no, no need to apologize, even if you were sounding like an ass. I mean I don't think that you were.[...]you have not been doing regular maintenance on your system and now you are just paying the price. Sorry to sound like an ass[...]
Huh? Years? What are you talking about? I don't think I've had this system yet eight months! And I'm not sure about "lazy"--more like I'm being a big pack-rat! I just loooove gathering and storing data! heheheheAt least from the sound of it, the OP was lazy and now he needs to pay back the principle+interests. All those times backup's, defrag's, and uninstalling unused crap that should be done and not performed all these years?
In the queue, in the queue! But meanwhile....I thought you are building a completely new machine anyway?
bdwilcox wrote:Hey, thanks! I may try that one as well!Another good one is SuperAntiSpyware
The Lord of the Flies wrote:Okay, I've been doing this. I have 3 HDDs; my Primary Drive that hold the OS has ~38.33GB of total capacity; the First Auxiliary Drive has ~466GB; and my Secondary Auxiliary, and external HDD via USB Frankensteined onto the system, ~112GB.
The Lord of the Flies wrote:Huh? Years? What are you talking about? I don't think I've had this system yet eight months!At least from the sound of it, the OP was lazy and now he needs to pay back the principle+interests. All those times backup's, defrag's, and uninstalling unused crap that should be done and not performed all these years?
The Lord of the Flies wrote:But back to the subject at hand: I wanted to know if 25% free space is actually necessary on my drives, even the Auxiliary Drives? Or is 15% free all that that is necessary?
Thanks!
The Lord of the Flies wrote:Yeah, I'm not reinstalling the operating-system right now.
I don't need to re-install the OS right now, and just buying a new HDD is more than is needed, really.