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derFunkenstein · Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:59 pm

I take that to mean they're watching cards that have had transactions with PSN in the past. I could be wrong.

Also, probably more important, is that Sony never asked for CVNs so they're not storing them. And since they never stored them, they couldn't be taken. I have to think that if a bank sees alot of failed charges with invalid CVNs they'll know what's up.

tanker27 · Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:35 am

True, But just to be safe I cancelled my CC associated with PSN last saturday and have already received my new card and number. It may have been inconvenient but it sure was easy and they were fast to turn around with the new card and number.

derFunkenstein · Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:12 pm

As did I, as I mentioned earlier. It's just good practice, but so far it seems like it might wind up having been OK. I just want plenty of advance notice as to when the service will come back up so I can get in, change my password, and get out before someone else does.

DancinJack · Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:58 am

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/44131/PSN-Cre ... p-for-sale

derFunkenstein · Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:09 pm

Wowza.

Definitely glad I cancelled my card now.

A Gamestop lackey told me last night that PSN is supposed to come back up with a PS3 firmware update on Tuesday and everyone is going to be mandated to change their password upon login. I can find lots of articles where Tuesday is speculated but zero supporting evidence about a firmware update or anything else. Did I miss a link somewhere?

derFunkenstein · Sat May 14, 2011 6:30 pm

3.61 is live for when PSN comes back up. My guess is that it won't be too long now.

edit: we're on our way back: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/ ... egins-now/

Igor_Kavinski · Sun May 15, 2011 2:04 pm

My PS3 says "You need to update to sign in". It checks for the update and then tells me, "Your system software is already updated". But I have system software 3.60! WHAT THE HELL??? Anyone else having this issue?

derFunkenstein · Sun May 15, 2011 2:38 pm

3.61 is the latest update. What region are you in? Maybe it's not available in your region yet? It's definitely mandatory to upgrade, though.

edit: As soon as I saw the "3.61 live" link that I posted, I checked system update and got the update. As soon as I got up this morning I looked on the PS blog and saw that my state was lit up on their map. I was able to sign in and change my password. So in the US at least it's workign as advertised. If you're elsewhere in the world, they lagged behind the US. On the official Playstation Twitter feed, they were bringing up Mexico, Europe, and the Middle East about an hour ago (It's now 3:45 CDT)

Dizik · Sun May 15, 2011 8:59 pm

As of earlier today, PSN is up in Oklahoma but only for online play. Unfortunately, the PSN Store is still unavailable. That means that I am only able to play Mortal Kombat online if I use the 2 day free trial of the Kombat Pass, since the Kombat Pass that came with my copy of the game must be redeemed via the PSN Store. Also, I can't redeem my classic Sub-Zero outfit and fatality. :-?

I fully understand why companies have started issuing one-time codes to authenticate online play, and charging those that buy the game used, but this is a really good example of when it's not that good of a idea. I went ahead and used the 2 day pass, but what happens if the store isn't up two days from now and I still have the urge to cut somebody's head in half? What then, Sony? What then?

Vinceant · Mon May 16, 2011 1:38 pm

You live in Oklahoma? This state is so ftw... Anyway.

How long has this online pass system been standard procedure? I don't usually buy console games for their online MP so the last one I bought that had it was MW2, I think.

I really hope the network can get back up and maybe we'll stop having 4 news stories a day on a single website about it. I really don't care what some security analyst heard in a rumor, and I'm tired of all the blame game crap with no evidence (none will surface until the FBI investigation is done and if fault falls on Sony they will be punished).

Dizik · Mon May 16, 2011 1:56 pm

Vinceant wrote:
You live in Oklahoma? This state is so ftw... Anyway.

Yeah dude, I live in Moore.

Vinceant wrote:
How long has this online pass system been standard procedure?

I dont know if it's been standard procedure, but it's been happening more often. I think EA was the first one to really start using it, with more studios following suit.

derFunkenstein · Mon May 16, 2011 3:27 pm

Dizik wrote:
As of earlier today, PSN is up in Oklahoma but only for online play. Unfortunately, the PSN Store is still unavailable.

Sony has answered your question. Kind of. No store just yet, though I'm hoping relatively soon-like.

edit 5:30PM CDT: Hey, this is pretty nice. It's not perfect, but I won't turn it down.

All PlayStation Network customers can select two PS3 games from the following list. The games will be available for 30 days shortly after PlayStation Store is restored and can be kept forever.

Dead Nation
inFAMOUS
LittleBigPlanet
Super Stardust HD
Wipeout HD + Fury

For PSP owners, you will be eligible to download two PSP games from the following list. The games will be available for 30 days shortly after PlayStation Store is restored and can be kept forever.

LittleBigPlanet (PSP)
ModNation Racers
Pursuit Force
Killzone Liberation

A selection of “On Us” rental movie titles will be available to PlayStation Network customers over one weekend, where Video Service is available. Those titles will be announced soon.

30 days free PlayStation Plus membership for non PlayStation Plus subscribers.

Existing PlayStation Plus subscribers will receive an additional 60 days of free subscription.

Existing Music Unlimited Premium Trial subscription members will receive an additional 30 days of free premium subscription.

Additional 30 days + time lost for existing members of Music Unlimited Premium/Basic subscription free of charge for existing Premium/Basic members.
To welcome users Home, PlayStation Home will be offering 100 free virtual items. Additional free content will be released soon, including the next addition to the Home Mansion personal space, and Ooblag’s Alien Casino, an exclusive game.

Mon May 16, 2011 7:45 pm

derFunkenstein wrote:
edit 5:30PM CDT: Hey, this is pretty nice. It's not perfect, but I won't turn it down.
Sony wrote:
All PlayStation Network customers can select two PS3 games from the following list. The games will be available for 30 days shortly after PlayStation Store is restored and can be kept forever.
Dead Nation
inFAMOUS
LittleBigPlanet
Super Stardust HD
Wipeout HD + Fury

I own three of those games already, so I guess the choice of which two to get is easy. :lol:

derFunkenstein · Mon May 16, 2011 7:50 pm

I own inFAMOUS and at one time owned (and didn't particularly care for) LBP. I have twin-stick shooters (though not SuperStardust HD) on multiple platforms (Everyday Shooter for PS3 and Geometry Wars 1 for PC). So for me it's most likely down to Dead Nation and Wipeout HD + Fury, I think.

Still, it's a heck of a lot better than Undertow. :lol:

Also, I'll take a free month of PlayStation Plus. Speaking of which, how do the free downloads work? Are they only available for the month they're offered, or do you get to keep anything beyond that?

Mon May 16, 2011 7:53 pm

I own Super Stardust HD, Little Big Planet and inFamous, so I'll be choosing the same two that you did.

Dizik · Mon May 16, 2011 9:02 pm

Chances are I'll be getting inFAMOUS and Dead Nation. I already own Wipeout HD, and wasn't really impressed with LBP. I would get Super Stardust HD, but between shooting zombies with shotguns or shooting spaceships with lasers, zombies always win. Always.

tfp · Tue May 17, 2011 9:44 am

When does this start? I might need to dig out the PS3 because it's packed up for moving and I would hate to miss out.

derFunkenstein · Tue May 17, 2011 9:47 am

tfp wrote:
When does this start? I might need to dig out the PS3 because it's packed up for moving and I would hate to miss out.

They didn't give a specific date, just sometime after the store comes back up. You get 30 days from the start, so you might have already moved by then, but might not, depending on when the store comes up. Also, you shouldn't need to actually complete the download by then; it should (if it's like other PSN purchases) show in the transaction history on your Account Management screen, so you can download it (again) later.

tanker27 · Wed May 18, 2011 12:10 pm

Hacked again

Hmm comedy of errors?

derFunkenstein · Wed May 18, 2011 12:19 pm

Not so much hacked, as someone figured out how to generate the URL that gets emailed out, I think.

Sony's kind of stuck here - I mean, they need a method of retrieving/resetting passwords for people who can't remember, but the only info they have to identify you is the info you provided and which was subsequently stolen. They obviously need to change how the URL is constructed, but my guess is that enough info was stolen that it can be exploited again.

I guess this means I need to change my birthdate on PSN, and then remember what that birthdate is. edit: or change my email address.

tanker27 · Wed May 18, 2011 12:28 pm

IMHO, just wipe everything and start again, seriously. Fix the holes, fix the databases, and then just have everyone sign up again. Do NOT carry anything over that may have been compromised.

Here we stand a month out and its still has issues.

If this was feudal Japan some people would have committed Seppuku already.

Skrying · Wed May 18, 2011 12:41 pm

How about... not returning to the Playstation Network? A bit incredible to see how quickly people forgive for letting a company leak private and important information. Not only leaking but doing so in a way that shows a failure from top to bottom in management. Now this... at some point you guys are considering not becoming happy customers again, right?

derFunkenstein · Wed May 18, 2011 12:48 pm

Life is too short to be perpetually unhappy. Besides, I've invested enough money in the platform, I might as well use it. It's not like my info on PSN is real - my address is in Aurora, MO so I can avoid IL sales tax.

I think this will be a relatively simple fix. They're just going to have to add another layer of complexity to the password change routine. The "forgot password" response is going to have to include a randomly generated string that gets entered after you click the link, not as part of the URL, and the seed can't be anything related to account data.

tanker27 · Wed May 18, 2011 12:55 pm

Skrying wrote:
How about... not returning to the Playstation Network? A bit incredible to see how quickly people forgive for letting a company leak private and important information. Not only leaking but doing so in a way that shows a failure from top to bottom in management. Now this... at some point you guys are considering not becoming happy customers again, right?

Meh. Normally I would be angered if this was anything else but as it stands now except for a few games on the PS3 its nothing more than the best-damned-blue-ray-player-ever.

I just think that its really asinine that something this huge has happened and continues to happen.

derFunkenstein · Wed May 18, 2011 3:01 pm

It's like I can predict the past.

We temporarily took down the PSN and Qriocity password reset page. Contrary to some reports, there was no hack involved. In the process of resetting of passwords there was a URL exploit that we have subsequently fixed.

Consumers who haven’t reset their passwords for PSN are still encouraged to do so directly on their PS3. Otherwise, they can continue to do so via the website as soon as we bring that site back up.

derFunkenstein · Fri May 20, 2011 5:07 pm

the PlayStation Facebook page says that you can play Mortal Kombat online now without the online pass until the store is back up, which answered one of Dizik's questions.

They also apparently briefed developers that the store would get its first update in over a month on Tuesday and they'll do 2-a-week store updates until they have caught up. So that means the store should be back on Tuesday as well. http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/19/plays ... t-tuesday/

Dizik · Mon May 23, 2011 8:22 am

Yes, you can play Mortal Kombat online right now without needing the Kombat Pass. However, the lag ranges from bearable to atrocious, despite every person that I've fought showing that they have an optimal connection. I'm hoping that this is somehow a side-effect of an influx of people hopping on at once due to all of the PSN issues that's been going on lately, but I doubt that's the case. If the network doesn't improve, there's going to be an all-but-meaningless uproar from the online community.

derFunkenstein · Tue May 24, 2011 9:58 am

No store returning today. I had assumed that's why they pushed a PSP firmware update last night, but apparently not. http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/ ... nce-today/

tanker27 · Wed May 25, 2011 10:50 am

All these hacks / exploits of Sony's different business units have now become a running joke. In the immortal words of Seth Myers, "REALLY!"

"Sony the swiss cheese of technology."

derFunkenstein · Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:49 am

Our long national nightmare is over. The store is back. Also, as expected it's slow as ****.

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