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funkmaster
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First Build

Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:48 pm

This is my first time building a computer and i wanted to make sure i didn't miss anything. I am building this computer to play the Old Republic and to last me the next seven to ten years with minor upgrades. My price range for the major components is about a grand, but I am willing to go above that. I welcome any suggestions. Thanks.

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition 169.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=19-103-849&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=%28keywords%29&Page=1#scrollFullInfo

ASUS M5A88-V EVO 129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131733

CORSAIR Professional Series HX750 139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010

XFX HD-685X-ZNBC Radeon HD 6850 Black Edition 1GB 144.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150512

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB 39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit 99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

SAMSUNG Black Blu-ray Combo Model 59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151222

Total 1,014.91

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Processors%20-%20Desktops-_-AMD-_-19103727&AID=10440897&PID=2718665&SID=

ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO 122.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131646&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Motherboards%20-%20AMD-_-ASUS-_-13131646&AID=10440897&PID=2718665&SID=

I am still debating about getting a different heatsink. With the tower I have picked I don't think cooling will be a problem.
 
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Re: First Build

Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:21 pm

I recomend the haf 922 over the 932,My 922 is huge should be a full sized case not listed as a mid size,Its plenty big and has 200mm fans that are nice a quietonly comes with 2 200mm fans but i moved the top 200mm into the side to blow on my video cards the top is honeycomb mesh so the heat will get out on its own.Plus its only 99$
use the extra 40$ to get a better video card least a 6870 or a gtx560 mabey even a ti560.
Imm running 2 560tis and there is plenty of room.
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Re: First Build

Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:20 pm

What size is your monitor goin to be. That will depend on whether you need a beefier graphics card or not. The 6850 should run TOR just fine.

I agree with the HAF 922 substitute. Maybe even look at the new Corsiar 400 series, same size and price as the 922.
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Re: First Build

Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:26 pm

The Radeon HD6870 is only slightly more expensive than the HD6850 and it provides noticeably better gaming performance.


I'd be reluctant to drop a bundle on the Phenom II X6 1090T Thuban with Bulldozer waiting in the wings. Consider the Phenom II X4 955 Deneb as a more affordable place-holder.

Would you consider the M5A97 Evo? Don't get the M4A88TD-V Evo--It's not ready for Bulldozer.

The Corsair TX650 V2 is more than enough power supply for half the price of the one that you were considering.
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Re: First Build

Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:49 pm

Id be cautious about buying an AMD cpu with Bulldozer " supposedly" being available next quarter ,actually if my next build was supposed to last 7- 10 years I'd wait till BD is available with benchmark numbers to back up it's performance. If you can't wait , I'd see what kind of Sandybridge build you can put together for a grand.
Other thoughts on the HAF 932, why a full tower as this? I have 2 HAF 922's and they are more than big enough to work inside of without any issues. On the other hand all the mesh on the 922 gets " dusty" pretty fast, however I live a a southern state where tile floors are the norm as opposed to carpet.I like the HAF cases but having lived with the 2 I have ,I'd probably not buy another one with the White Corsair 600 case out there as an alternative.

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Re: First Build

Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:52 pm

If you're looking for future proofing, you're already outdated with your choice of cpu and board imo. Is there really any reason to go thuban in the first place in a build that is over $700 if the buyer isn't an AMD fanboy? Once you reach that price point, intel's sandy bridge chips really do start to embarass AMDs top of the line chips.

Also case preference is pretty personal, but is there a reason you want the HAF?

The corsair hx750 is a nice psu but its loud and the fan runs all the time (I owned it btw). You should consider the silverstone x series PSUs as they have a fan that does not run at low loads (I own this one at this time and love it). You shouldn't need anything more than a good 450-500w psu.

That hard drive you list seems really really expensive for a boot drive. I thought 1-1.5TB drives were going for 50 dollars these days.
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Re: First Build

Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:51 pm

Thanks for all the suggestions. As you can see I took your advice and went with the smaller 922 case. I also went with a smaller power supply. I choose upgrades for the motherboard and video card. I also added a CPU Cooler in. As for the CPU I am waiting for the Bulldozer chip to come out but I wanted to put a current chip in the build incase the Bulldozer did not benchmark well. I have also added an intel option in at the bottom. Even though Intel is more expensive it still fits within my budget. If these leaked prices are correct I will probably go with the 6 core but again it will come do to the benchmarks.
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FX-6100: 6 core, 3.3GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) -- $188.32

CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Processors%20-%20Desktops-_-AMD-_-19103727&AID=10440897&PID=2718665&SID=

Motherboard
1 ASUS M5A97 EVO 119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131757

2 ASUS M5A88-V EVO 129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131733

Power Supply
1 CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020

2 SILVERSTONE Strider Essential series ST70F-ES 84.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256072

Video Card
1 SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 154.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

2 XFX HD-685X-ZNBC Radeon HD 6850 Black Edition 1GB 144.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150512

Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB 39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

Hard Drive
1.Samsung HD103SJ 1TB 59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&Tpk=Samsung%20HD103SJ

2. Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

Case
1. COOLER MASTER HAF 922 89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197

2. Corsair Carbide Series 400R 89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139008

Software
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit 99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Blu-ray
SAMSUNG Black Blu-ray Combo Model 59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151222

CPU COOLER
1. COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus 29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

2. ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 32.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

Total 864.90

Intel CPU and Motherboard

Intel Core i5-2500 Sandy Bridge 209.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073

MSI Z68MA-G45 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel Z68 119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130612
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Re: First Build

Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:01 pm

On the Intel side, the Core i5-2500K in the overclocking value in the Sandy Bridge lineup.

Did you consider the Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 for your hard-drive? It's almost as fast as the Caviar Black while being cheaper, quieter and cooler. You don't want to use the slower Caviar Green for your operating system.

The Radeon HD6870 is noticeably faster than the HD6850. For the small difference in price, that's the card to get.

Given a choice, I prefer to use 120mm cooling fans rather than 92mm fans. You can get more cooling with less noise from the larger fan.
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Re: First Build

Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:03 pm

Thanks for the advice I made the two changes you suggested. As for the CPU cooler I just wanted to put in second option and didn't see the fan size difference. So unless someone suggests a better cooler then the cool master that will be my choice.
 
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Re: First Build

Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:32 am

It's the Core i5-2500K that's overclockable.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDeal ... mbo.723046

Intel does make you give up some virtualization capabilities to get the unlocked turbo multiplier in the "K" processors.
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