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The article wrote:Garrett, for his part, is not panicking about the new requirement. He's hopeful that OEMs will be able to include an option in their UEFI firmware to disable the secure booting feature.
cfroese wrote:This might eliminate dual booting but only on OEM systems. For those of us who build our own computers, I don't see anything in that article that would prevent us from dual booting.
xtalentx wrote:less than .005% cry as a result...
End User wrote:cfroese wrote:This might eliminate dual booting but only on OEM systems. For those of us who build our own computers, I don't see anything in that article that would prevent us from dual booting.
Windows 8 is going to push manufacturers to make some sweet tablet hardware (Intel and ARM based). I want to run Ubuntu, not Windows 8, on next gen PC tablet hardware.
End User wrote:xtalentx wrote:less than .005% cry as a result...
I'm not willing to lie down and accept Microsoft as the sole OS provider in the PC hardware space. They are the 800 lb gorilla that needs to be dealt with.
xtalentx wrote:I find Microsoft makes better products than just about anyone (not with everything) in the OS space there is just no beating them.. That may change in the future but right now - they are king and for a reason.
Madman wrote:There is nothing Windows can do better, I repeat - nothing.
What saves Windows is only the fact that a lot of cool programs simply doesn't work under Linux.
Glorious wrote:Madman wrote:There is nothing Windows can do better, I repeat - nothing.
What saves Windows is only the fact that a lot of cool programs simply doesn't work under Linux.
Which is, you know, something.
Madman wrote:Not true anymore...
A_Pickle wrote:Madman wrote:Not true anymore...
I wish I could agree. Really, I wish I could, but my experience with Linux (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Mint) has been anything but painless or useful. Make no mistake: I believe in "the cause" of Linux, and I wish I could run a Linux distro as my main machine... but I can't. I have tried.
CasbahBoy wrote:A_Pickle wrote:Madman wrote:Not true anymore...
I wish I could agree. Really, I wish I could, but my experience with Linux (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Mint) has been anything but painless or useful. Make no mistake: I believe in "the cause" of Linux, and I wish I could run a Linux distro as my main machine... but I can't. I have tried.
As a person that has used (and enjoyed using!) Gentoo for years, sometimes as my sole OS...I agree. I'm back to just Windows (7) right now, as the last two years of work have been unpleasant enough to suck most of my alternative OS tweaking energy right out of me.
You are obviously capable of learning Linux, but don't have the time or patience for it. This is perfectly OK. I spent years trying to learn, many many months of frustration all together, before I got comfortable. It would be stupid to expect that kind of commitment to a single hobby from anybody else!
End User wrote:cfroese wrote:This might eliminate dual booting but only on OEM systems. For those of us who build our own computers, I don't see anything in that article that would prevent us from dual booting.
Windows 8 is going to push manufacturers to make some sweet tablet hardware (Intel and ARM based). I want to run Ubuntu, not Windows 8, on next gen PC tablet hardware.
Madman wrote:Yes, but not from Microsoft, so my point still stands.
cheesyking wrote:Regardless of your views on Linux on your personal machines something that has the potential to harm Linux has the potential to harm everyone because the fact is that everyone who uses the internet uses Linux. This site runs on it; much of Google, Yahoo, Amazon runs on it; many ISPs use it for all sorts of things; the list could go on for a long time.
OK killing desktop Linux (which this probably won't do anyway) won't kill it on the server but it won't do it any good either. Since Linux relies on its users to help with development putting a barrier in front of new users getting into Linux could lead to a shortage of developers a few years down the line.
OK killing desktop Linux (which this probably won't do anyway) won't kill it on the server but it won't do it any good either.
Glorious wrote:...
Ryu Connor wrote:His bitch and moan is that OEMs might be lazy and not expose the setting in their custom firmware.
Flying Fox wrote:A little too over dramatic?The article wrote:Garrett, for his part, is not panicking about the new requirement. He's hopeful that OEMs will be able to include an option in their UEFI firmware to disable the secure booting feature.
Madman wrote:Glorious wrote:...
The point that Windows is superior to other OSes, it's really not. Applications make it appear to be superior. If all of the applications would have been cross-platform, there would be 0 things why I would choose Windows over Linux, oh, actually -1, because Linux is free.
You're arguing about OS+applications.