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notfred wrote:I don't think you'll find a piece of general software to do this. You'll need the original emails and look at the headers on them (which can be forged to some degree). You can then trace back to which ISP they were sent from, then subpoena that ISP for records of who had that IP at that time and then take that info to the police or civil court. You might not get anywhere as this has stopped now and the ISP probably doesn't keep records for too long.
just brew it! wrote:Yeah, your best bet is to look at the full headers of the e-mails. If they were sent from a webmail account you won't be able to tell much, but if they came from an e-mail client running on a local PC you should be able to get an IP address. If you suspect it is someone you've corresponded with in the past you may even be able to correlate the IP address and/or host name the e-mail originated from with other saved e-mails.
just brew it! wrote:If they were sent from a webmail account the originating IP address will be that of the webmail server, not the computer the web browser was running on.
redavni wrote:Reply back with a subtle image or a link to a web server where you have full access to the logs. You can set up a web server on your home machine to do it even. If the senders email client is configured to load images automatically, all he needs to do is open it and you have his IP address as long as he is not behind a proxy. A geolocation lookup on the IP should give approximate location.
If you have a Facebook, this guy is probably visiting it. I don't do Facebook, but I believe they allow external content now through their API. So, if you are really determined, you can expand on the same technique there to try and pin down an identity.
Yes, the "web bug" trick. This is why most modern email clients, and most webmail clients, now don't load images by default in mail from unknown senders and require you to explicitly click something to view them. For this reason, it would probably be better to not try to "hide" the image but instead make it something your harasser would want to see --redavni wrote:Reply back with a subtle image or a link to a web server where you have full access to the logs. You can set up a web server on your home machine to do it even. If the senders email client is configured to load images automatically, all he needs to do is open it and you have his IP address as long as he is not behind a proxy. A geolocation lookup on the IP should give approximate location.
Your mail makes me like this:
unahppyface.gif henfactor wrote:Now that sir, is a clever idea. All the accounts are web-based, made exclusively for this purpose. The only part I'm fuzzy on is the home server bit... Any good guides out there for hosting your own content?
UberGerbil wrote:HOWEVER: the harassing emails have now stopped. I personally would rather remain in the dark than kick the hornet's nest. Moreover, if this incites a new round of harassment you probably won't get as sympathetic a response from the police this time since things were quiet until you stirred them up again. So I'd keep this little maneuver in your back pocket and only bring it out if the harassment starts again.
UberGerbil wrote:They may know you strictly from things they've found on the internet, considering how much personal information "leaks" out onto the net these days (often indirectly -- you may be diligent about what you put out there, but you have no control over what your friends and family and co-workers stick on Facebook, etc). This might be someone you've never met and doesn't live near you, but you've simply flipped some switch in their fevered brain by some relatively innocuous comment you've made on a site somewhere. I mean, mentally healthy people simply don't engage in vicious email harassment, so it's quite likely that whatever you did to get on this person's had side is something rather minor.Yes, the "web bug" trick. This is why most modern email clients, and most webmail clients, now don't load images by default in mail from unknown senders and require you to explicitly click something to view them. For this reason, it would probably be better to not try to "hide" the image but instead make it something your harasser would want to see --redavni wrote:Reply back with a subtle image or a link to a web server where you have full access to the logs. You can set up a web server on your home machine to do it even. If the senders email client is configured to load images automatically, all he needs to do is open it and you have his IP address as long as he is not behind a proxy. A geolocation lookup on the IP should give approximate location.where that gif is on a server that gives you access to its logs. Though a dumb harasser might just load everything anyway, even if there's just a little "bug" picture in your signature or whatever. You could just buy a minimal hosting account somewhere -- a lot of web hosts are under $5 a month for a basic setup, and most offer a 30 day trial or money-back guarantee, so you could be in and out without any (or minimal) money out of pocket. You wouldn't even need a domain.
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Your mail makes me like this:
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HOWEVER: the harassing emails have now stopped. I personally would rather remain in the dark than kick the hornet's nest. Moreover, if this incites a new round of harassment you probably won't get as sympathetic a response from the police this time since things were quiet until you stirred them up again. So I'd keep this little maneuver in your back pocket and only bring it out if the harassment starts again.
henfactor wrote:Now that sir, is a clever idea. All the accounts are web-based, made exclusively for this purpose. The only part I'm fuzzy on is the home server bit... Any good guides out there for hosting your own content?

That's why I suggested a web hosting service: unless you already know how to do this, or want to learn, it's just more trouble than it's worth. Plus if you're hosting the image from your own machine, a savvy harasser now has some information about you, and might be tempted to launch a DoS attack (or worse) against you. I'd much rather keep things at arm's length using a professional hosting service (which probably also is much better secured against those sorts of attacks, and also has more clout in getting authorities involved if a dumb harasser launches one against their servers).just brew it! wrote:Well... to do this with a home server, you either need an IP that doesn't change (fully static, or at least a dynamic address that only changes rarely), or you need to set up an account with a free dynamic DNS service. Also, if your ISP blocks incoming HTTP requests you're SOL. Assuming you've cleared those hurdles, you install web server software on a PC on your network (there are a number of free alternatives, Apache being a popular one), and tell your firewall to forward port 80 to it. That's pretty much it... though I've obviously glossed over the details of configuring whatever web server it is you've chosen to use.
UberGerbil wrote:That's why I suggested a web hosting service: unless you already know how to do this, or want to learn, it's just more trouble than it's worth. Plus if you're hosting the image from your own machine, a savvy harasser now has some information about you, and might be tempted to launch a DoS attack (or worse) against you. I'd much rather keep things at arm's length using a professional hosting service (which probably also is much better secured against those sorts of attacks, and also has more clout in getting authorities involved if a dumb harasser launches one against their servers).
just brew it! wrote:If they were sent from a webmail account the originating IP address will be that of the webmail server, not the computer the web browser was running on.
henfactor wrote:I was hoping with the piles of data I have from him already, I'd be able to apply some interwebs magic and track him down CSI style.
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