Going back to XP

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Going back to XP

Postposted on Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:20 pm

Hello Guys,
I just want to ask if you there is an easy way to convert back from window 7 to window XP, a software that can make converting be easy and fast.
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:27 pm

Almost certainly not. You'll need to back up your data and do a clean reinstall, then reinstall all your programs and copy your data back.
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:57 pm

Nope.

From a business/time perspective, out of the millions who have upgraded to Windows 7, such a small percentage (.0001% maybe?) that have gone back, it's not worth the time or money to develop such a program.

But out of curiosity, why do you want to go back? Windows 7 is by far the most stable Windows OS Microsoft has ever released and if it's a user interface issue, you should probably get used to it because they're not going back to what-ever it is you liked about XP.
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:57 pm

I just left XP a few weeks ago due to increasingly crappy driver support. Do not go there, it's a dead end.
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:01 pm

Sargent Duck wrote:...such a small percentage (.0001% maybe?) that have gone back

Yet, there will ALWAYS be that .0001% out there that keep on truckin' ( http://skodwarde.com/2010/04/windows-7-sucks/ ) :roll:
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:29 pm

In premise WETT or USMT might can do it.

You might seriously consider leveraging a VM instead.

From a hardware and even software support perspective XP is in a downward spiral.
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:46 pm

why do you want to go back? Windows 7 is by far the most stable Windows OS Microsoft has ever released and if it's a user interface issue, you should probably get used to it because they're not going back to what-ever it is you liked about XP.
not that it was directed at me but I went back to WinXP because I sold my computer and am using an Nforce 4 dual core comp with 2 gb's of ram.

Nforce 4 motherboards aren't supported by Windows 7 so it was a no go, that I only have 2gb's of ram made choosing Win7 a waste of time.

I'm not sure I believe the cool aid that Win7 is the most stable but I do prefer it over WinXP and will eventually move back once I get a new system.
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:57 am

clone wrote:Nforce 4 motherboards aren't supported by Windows 7 so it was a no go.
Says who?

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It runs Windows 7 satisfactorily (though obviously not as quickly as my Core i7-2600K does from the SSD).
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:31 am

Going back to XP is not a great idea, even if you are frustrated with 7 for some reason. The main reason you would not want to go back to XP at this point is that Microsoft has already stated that they will not issue security patches for it after 2014. That means that it will be much more successfully attackable after that point.
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:55 am

Says who?
says Nvidia, they offer a legacy Vista driver that was never validated or supported.
Gigabit (1000 Mbit/s) ethernet support in Vista and Windows 7 is also problematic with nForce4. The latest drivers fall back to 100 Mbit/s mode, and there is no known fix for the problem.

Nvidia offers chipset driver downloads for nForce4 for Windows versions up to and including Vista in the "Legacy" product type category on their download page.[9] However, there is no official support for Windows 7.


even with the Vista hack it results in a slower system.... not that it really matters but I'm not going to use it, WinXP is fine for the system I've got, when the new one comes in I'll move back to Win7.
Going back to XP is not a great idea, even if you are frustrated with 7 for some reason. The main reason you would not want to go back to XP at this point is that Microsoft has already stated that they will not issue security patches for it after 2014.
you do realize it's 2012 .... like were still in the first month of 2012 and 2014 is 2 years away.

XP isn't wonderful or anything but if you've got the disk lying around it's not a horrible idea to install it on an older system.
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:59 pm

clone wrote:Gigabit (1000 Mbit/s) ethernet support in Vista and Windows 7 is also problematic with nForce4. The latest drivers fall back to 100 Mbit/s mode, and there is no known fix for the problem.
The NVidia ethernet was notoriously bug-ridden (remember "Active Armor"?) from the day it was released and they never fixed it to work reliably under any OS. On my mother's PC, I long ago installed a piece of tape over the NVidia ethernet port so that the network cable only gets plugged into the more-reliable Marvell port.
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:55 pm

seems to be working fine for me so long as I don't use Active Armor.

I knew the Nforce 4 was buggy all along, I replaced my in laws pc as a favor and am using this one until I get something newer..... it's not working badly with WinXP.

but with a weak CPU and only 2gb's of ram + the added sting of less than beta drivers I've no need to move to WIn7.

I'm sure everyone involved has used WinXP for quite a while and yeah it's primitive and lacks polish compared to Win7 but it's like nostalgia for me, I have no love for XP but it does work and given the system I'm using I'm not losing by using it.

reality is I've been using it for over a month with no crashes so far which I couldn't say with any certainty with Vista..... meh, not going to waste a day ruining a decent running setup.
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:26 pm

Find new software, XP really sucks in pretty much every day-to-day way. It's a MASSIVE change in performance. Whatever software you're using, find something else, it beats using a DECADE old OS.
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:56 pm

zzz wrote:Find new software, XP really sucks in pretty much every day-to-day way. It's a MASSIVE change in performance. Whatever software you're using, find something else, it beats using a DECADE old OS.


Been using XP on my work machine since 2004. Why would i go and find a new version of some software that suits my OS, just so I can upgrade my OS?
I'm not saying no-one should upgrade, but neither should you say that there's never a good reason to use an old OS.

If XP sucks in pretty much every way, then my music would stop playing, Outlook would not function, I would have no browsers to choose from other than IE8.
Is it possible that "in pretty much every day-to-day way" really means, weak driver support for new hardware, less performance from same hardware, something like that?

I have BASIC requirements, so may aswell stay with what works right? well until 2014 at least.
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:21 pm

Just today I was thinking how much faster my dual-core work laptop is working with Windows 7 than it ever was under XP.

I have three pc's now, music creation workstation with an old Q6600, an Asus i7 Laptop with 12 GB RAM, and the creaky old dual core work laptop. All three are running just wonderfully with Windows 7. The work laptop now boots and is ready for use within 2 or 3 minutes. Not bad for a four year old laptop. Under XP it was NEVER ready sooner than 5 to 7 minutes.

The only time I run XP or Vista is when I want to test something under those OSs. I would never do production work (neither my own nor for my job) on XP at this point.
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:21 pm

thegleek wrote:
Sargent Duck wrote:...such a small percentage (.0001% maybe?) that have gone back

Yet, there will ALWAYS be that .0001% out there that keep on truckin' ( http://skodwarde.com/2010/04/windows-7-sucks/ ) :roll:



That blog post is a joke right? I realize that most people are morons but I mean really?
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:49 am

d0g_p00p wrote:
thegleek wrote:
Sargent Duck wrote:...such a small percentage (.0001% maybe?) that have gone back

Yet, there will ALWAYS be that .0001% out there that keep on truckin' ( http://skodwarde.com/2010/04/windows-7-sucks/ ) :roll:


That blog post is a joke right? I realize that most people are morons but I mean really?

Yes that blog is a joke. That's the reason why I posted it.

Because NO one with the right frame of mind goes BACK to something archaic as WinXP from something that runs so damned good as Win7.
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:15 pm

I actually went from Windows Vista Basic to XP Home and back to Windows Vista Basic on my netbook. Shocker, I know.

I have a WHS 2011 server and the backup scheme would just break on XP. After awhile, XP just couldn't connect to the server and it stopped doing automatic backups. I thought it was a software thing, but even after restoring a backup of of the netbook to a time where it was working I still couldn't connect it to the server. I didn't feel like looking into it further, but decided to back to Vista basic and see if it was more an OS issue.

Vista Basic seems to be working much better and I also am able to change many of the WHS server services that start up with windows from "Automatic" to "Automatic (Delayed)". It makes starting windows much quicker.

I know there were a number of things wrong with Vista at launch, but I can't notice them now -- and don't care to with my netbook. I betcha they were fixed in SP2. I like XP as much as the next guy but eh, I wasn't that attached to the OS. Real reason I personally didn't like Vista to begin with was because I thought it was too similar to XP and I figured battery life on my netbook would be better with XP (which also doesn't seem to hold water for me).
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:25 pm

going back to winXp from Vista is perfectly understandable. Going back from Win7, however, is NOT.
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Re: Going back to XP

Postposted on Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:56 pm

Well, I wouldn't go back to XP, but other than search in the start menu and sane UAC, there is nothing that would scream go Win7.

I used both systems alongside, and there are some annoyances in Win7 as there are in XP. Overall I hate the dumbed down/smartened up interfaces to control panel, network places, w/e in W7. But it looks nice, and has some good things like advanced firewall etc.

So yea, Windows 7 is very cool, but XP is lacking only in few places IMHO, and there are still places where XP is easier to use.

But I'm almost exclusively Ubuntu user now.
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