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JohnC wrote:I'm currently using GTX680 with latest WHQL drivers (301.10), haven't gotten any such issues yet, and I use FireFox daily for at least several hours...
thegleek wrote:JohnC wrote:I'm currently using GTX680 with latest WHQL drivers (301.10), haven't gotten any such issues yet, and I use FireFox daily for at least several hours...
I don't see any WHQL drivers that go beyond 296.10... Is that 301.10 specific to your video card model?
JohnC wrote:I'm currently using GTX680
Silicondoc wrote:AMD still has terrible drivers and whole classes of cards that crash. Worse yet, often there are no fixes. The system must be rebooted, and it happens again, and again, and again... for YEARS literally people try to find a fix and there isn't one. A hundred different cures are offered and claimed but then a little time shows they really solved little or nothing, it was just the euphoria the user experienced as the dastardly system takedown issue was for a short time, not prevalent.
You can think I'm off all you want, but I'm not anywhere near off. Nvidia solves their issues 99 times out of 100 in sohrt order, while AMD has an endless, and continuing, and ever expanding list.
They did solve CRAPPY CF scaling, but that was present for YEARS and YEARS and YEARS before they finally came up to Nvidia levels...
You mention a single crash issue, but YOU KNOW in what area and game it crashed - unlike AMDATI cards, where ANY CRASH in ANY GAME at ANY TIME goes.
You won't EVER convince anyone who has a clue.
End User wrote:JohnC wrote:I'm currently using GTX680
Cool. Which games? Noise? Temps? Which case are you using? OC tool?
flip-mode wrote:I was having TDR issues way, way back in the Geforce 6800 era. If this problem has gone on unresolved since that time then that's very bad news and who knows what it suggests.
JohnC wrote:flip-mode wrote:I was having TDR issues way, way back in the Geforce 6800 era. If this problem has gone on unresolved since that time then that's very bad news and who knows what it suggests.
That's strange. I still have my old Nvidia cards which I've used in the past (laying in their original boxes right now, for no practical purpose) - GF6800, 7900GTX and 8800GT. Never had a single issue with them and the drivers for them, as far as I can remember, and they were all used almost daily for several hours playing various games (back then when I had an insatiable addiction to playing games).
JohnC wrote:flip-mode wrote:I was having TDR issues way, way back in the Geforce 6800 era. If this problem has gone on unresolved since that time then that's very bad news and who knows what it suggests.
That's strange. I still have my old Nvidia cards which I've used in the past (laying in their original boxes right now, for no practical purpose) - GF6800, 7900GTX and 8800GT. Never had a single issue with them and the drivers for them, as far as I can remember, and they were all used almost daily for several hours playing various games (back then when I had an insatiable addiction to playing games).
Shadowdane wrote:I've been using Nvidia cards for years and only noticed the TDR issue starting with the Fermi chips. It didn't get completely fixed for me until I had updated the BIOS on my GTX460. I saved the original BIOS using GPU-Z and also looked at the updated BIOS. After comparing the two BIOS files in Nbitor I noticed the updated BIOS had slightly higher voltages for all 3 power states.
I think the issue is the card switching from low power 2D to low power 3D states, in some cases I think the card isn't supplying enough voltage for the clock speed increase. Hence the driver crashing during browsing is very common as it usually stays in 2D mode with some jumps to 3D low power.
I've only gotten a TDR once or twice during gaming and that was due to too high of an overclock, which again basically a voltage issue... not enough voltage for the clockspeed.
I've noticed a LOT of companies have released BIOS updates for GTX400/500 series cards, but a lot of people just don't update their video BIOS.
Ryu Connor wrote:You might try rolling back to 295.73.
Arclight wrote:Ryu Connor wrote:You might try rolling back to 295.73.
I hope i'm not speaking too soon but ever since i installed the 295.73 drivers i haven't experienced any TDR.
Anyone else?
Shadowdane wrote:I've been using Nvidia cards for years and only noticed the TDR issue starting with the Fermi chips. It didn't get completely fixed for me until I had updated the BIOS on my GTX460. I saved the original BIOS using GPU-Z and also looked at the updated BIOS. After comparing the two BIOS files in Nbitor I noticed the updated BIOS had slightly higher voltages for all 3 power states.
I think the issue is the card switching from low power 2D to low power 3D states, in some cases I think the card isn't supplying enough voltage for the clock speed increase. Hence the driver crashing during browsing is very common as it usually stays in 2D mode with some jumps to 3D low power.
I've noticed a LOT of companies have released BIOS updates for GTX400/500 series cards, but a lot of people just don't update their video BIOS.
Forge wrote:I've been keeping quiet, just because I wasn't having the issue. Had GTX260s, now have GTX460s, have run them singly and in SLI, have tried all sorts of settings, have had them installed on 4 or 5 different motherboards to date. Zero TDRs. Ever.
Forge wrote:I've been keeping quiet, just because I wasn't having the issue. Had GTX260s, now have GTX460s, have run them singly and in SLI, have tried all sorts of settings, have had them installed on 4 or 5 different motherboards to date. Zero TDRs. Ever.
I think you have bad hardware somewhere. It's not a pure software problem, or I'd have it too.
Ryu Connor wrote:Probably want to junk or RMA those NVIDIA based cards. Odds are they were defective hardware.
Ryu Connor wrote:Probably want to junk or RMA those NVIDIA based cards. Odds are they were defective hardware.
Taski wrote:Has there been any updates with this topic, mostly regarding the 560 ti drivers that work best?