Personal computing discussed
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Forge wrote:Not a lot of diagnostic info to work from. Try jumpering the green to any black on the power cable, see if the machine spins fans and hard disks. If so, your PSU is probably ok. Do you have any other machines that you can use to test CPU and/or memory?
My money is on failed motherboard.
Nice case, btw. I just discovered Fractal myself.
kc77 wrote:Take the MB out of the case. Set it on some wood or cardboard. Then try to turn the comp on. Many times the case can short the MB and prevent the comp from turning on.
kc77 wrote:Take the MB out of the case. Set it on some wood or cardboard. Then try to turn the comp on. Many times the case can short the MB and prevent the comp from turning on.
Forge wrote:kc77 wrote:Take the MB out of the case. Set it on some wood or cardboard. Then try to turn the comp on. Many times the case can short the MB and prevent the comp from turning on.
Possible, but less likely in a machine that's been running fine for some time. I still put my money on mobo, blinky lights or no.
internetsandman wrote:kc77 wrote:Take the MB out of the case. Set it on some wood or cardboard. Then try to turn the comp on. Many times the case can short the MB and prevent the comp from turning on.
If that was the case then I wouldn't have been able to use it for two months on my HDTV, considering I've done nothing to the internals since then
internetsandman wrote:Would it be worthwhile to go out and buy a replacement PSU and an upgraded mobo all at the same time, just to cover both possibilities?
derFunkenstein wrote:If it's power cycling itself, a speaker isn't going to do anything for you.
P5-133XL wrote:derFunkenstein wrote:If it's power cycling itself, a speaker isn't going to do anything for you.
You can all speculate what the problem is, and I'm sure someone will be right but no one yet has done anything other than to speculate...
c1arity wrote:Exactly, but rather than guessing wouldn't it actually be better to supply the proper diagnostic process so that the recipient has a chance at diagnosing the problem without spending a bunch of money on stuff that will just become spare parts.P5-133XL wrote:derFunkenstein wrote:If it's power cycling itself, a speaker isn't going to do anything for you.
You can all speculate what the problem is, and I'm sure someone will be right but no one yet has done anything other than to speculate...
Mostly because we aren't anywhere near the computer.
c1arity wrote:At this point you do usually start trial and error starting with the two most obvious things...motherboard and psu. The most difficult thing about the process is the time it takes if you don't get it right the first time. Just keep moving down the list.
P5-133XL wrote:Buy a beep speaker and learn how to use it! You can buy a diagnostic card or start swapping parts till it starts working again but a beep speaker is much cheaper.
Walkintarget wrote:P5-133XL wrote:Buy a beep speaker and learn how to use it! You can buy a diagnostic card or start swapping parts till it starts working again but a beep speaker is much cheaper.
These things are just invaluable for what OP is now dealing with. I managed to resurrect a 'dead' Asus M2N32-SLI board using one, and I've used it 2x since on other questionable boards. Even a dead board will give out clues via the speaker, so P5's suggestions so far are spot on. You can usually tell the guys who live this stuff from the guys who google everything.
sluggo wrote:The OP says: "and now it's refusing to turn on at all, nothing happens when the power button is pressed"
How is the chipset going to report error codes to the beeper if the machine can't power up?
P5-133XL wrote:sluggo wrote:The OP says: "and now it's refusing to turn on at all, nothing happens when the power button is pressed"
How is the chipset going to report error codes to the beeper if the machine can't power up?
The chipset is not what reports the error codes, the POST (Power on self test) does and that is in the BIOS.
P5-133XL wrote:You can all speculate what the problem is, and I'm sure someone will be right but no one yet has done anything other than to speculate...
P5-133XL wrote:You really don't know how things inside a computer work do you.
However, it does not need the chipset to operate the beep speaker.
internetsandman wrote:Before I burn another five hundred bucks on solutions that won't work I need some serious help with this, nothing I've done so far has worked and i'm feeling more and more frustrated as time goes on