This is a good article that I should save somewhere.
Chrispy_ wrote:+1 for the Noctua. They use much higher quality fans than Cooler Master, reflected in the fact that the Noctua is around double the cost of the EVO in most countries for good reason.
OK. Please note that there're 2 Noctua in my list.
Chrispy_ wrote:If you want performance, get a 2600K. It will overclock far more comfortably than the 3770K. At stock speeds, IVB is slightly cooler than SNB, but IVB gets really hot when overclocked and SNB doesn't.
How it is possible? i7-2600k i 95W TDP and 3770k is 77W TDP. What you're saying is that adding the same parameters (generally speaking) to IB will bring its TDP over SB TDP although IB has 18W less to start with.
Anyway, I don't have much experience in OC so intend OC only up to 4GHz (4.4GHz Turbo). According to the reviews I'm reading, ~4.6GHz is the max with non extreme cooling methods. This is OK for me as I intend to stay bellow.
Welch wrote:As for where your from, no worries. I'd like to think that I speak for all of us when I say that we don't care what country your from or the ignorant/horrible misconceptions that sometimes are attributed to "The Middle East". With that said, I still respect your choice of anonymity and just want to help you with your purchases. Thanks for letting us know roughly where your at so that we can better help figure out what is realistic for ordering to you and whats not.
I completely agree. With that said, are you shopping online? If so, perhaps you could provide us with your preferred website. It seems as though we've got a general concensus on the recommended system and at this point it may just come down to which components are the cost effective. (Cooler Master vs Noctua heatsink prices being the same where you're at for example)
Glad to hear that!
I have two local stores with no English GUI.
I usually order from Dealextreme and eBay.
I have no problem with ordering from other shops if the support Paypal.
Please note that for item above 75$ (including shipping) I have ~20% taxes.
Another problem is the warranty as items sometimes don't make it here alive...
Assuming that the store has a good customer support in that cases:
To be cheaper than local stores (I'll assume that shipment is about 20$, I also removed the local taxes):
GPU (HD 7950) - Less than 400$
CPU (3770k) - Less than 362$
MB - this is quit complicated as I need at least 8 USB in the back of the computer. I don't care about RAID, home computers RAID doesn't have a controller with RAM so using software RAID and hardware RAID on home computers is the same - the driver or the kernel do the job. Max budget for MB is 170$.
I don't care to buy fans abroad - if they get here broken I'll survive.
Star Brood wrote:I recommend the Intel Core i5 2500K with the GTX 670. Really good power consumption and amazing driver support. GeForce also has adaptive vsync which is great for games. For a power supply just get something with a bit of extra wattage for overclocking support as well as make sure that the power supply has a lot of great ratings.
99.99999999% of software will not be able to run better on a CPU with 8 threads vs one with 4 threads.
GTX670 give less performance than 7950 and cost more...
I need the extra threads for VMs...
End User wrote:
End User wrote:I went with an ASUS Z77 board to take advantage of the ASUS SSD Caching II technology. I've got a big HD that is being cached to a 240GB SSD.
@Tharbad: Just to clarify, Intel SSD caching has a maximum size limit of 64GB.
So it looks like End User
has partitioned off a 64GB chunk of the 240GB SSD, installed the OS/Programs/Games on the larger SSD partition, then used the 64GB partition to cache the "big HD" used for storage. I'm not sure how effective this is since the SSD and the "caching partition" have to share bandwidth over the same SATA connection instead of going the normal route and using seperate SSDs for the OS and caching. Anyway.. this probably doesn't apply to you.
ASUS SSD Caching II is separate from the Intel caching tech. My Corsair Force Series GT 240GB SSD is 100% dedicated to caching the main HD. Why did I go this route? I could have RAID'ed two 240GB drives but that would not give me enough space (and no TRIM). I was not interested in running dedicated Boot/Apps SSDs as I wanted everything on one volume. Ideally I would have gone with a 750GB or 1TB SSD but that will have to wait until my next build. ASUS SSD Caching II gives me fast boot/app launch times and allows me to stick with one big drive. I can have up to 3 SSDs caching the main HD.
Using RAID 0 with SSD will give u less performance using 1 SSD. I guess it have something to do with SSD already using RAID. So RAID on RAID with no good controller in the middle is not good.
Anyway 64GB cache is OK for me.I usually play only one game at a time.
ordskiweicz wrote:Wow. Seems like overkill even for very good gaming. Nice to have bucks to burn. You'd be OK with less.
If I was buying a new computer every 2 years you're right. But this computer will be turned into a VM server in 3-5 years and should survive at least 2 years after that.