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ADHDadditiv wrote:My budget is $1400 CANADIAN
ADHDadditiv wrote:I prefer a tower that looks cool,
ADHDadditiv wrote:This is for gaming.
End User wrote:I have a 3770K @4.6 and a H100 in a Corsair 550D with a dual GTX 570 setup. CPU and case fans are nice and quiet.
Airmantharp wrote:though a little expensive next to the Define R4 and P280
End User wrote:Airmantharp wrote:though a little expensive next to the Define R4 and P280
Expensive is the 800D @ $275 or the Thermaltake Level 10 that went for $700+. The 550D is definitely not expensive.
Airmantharp wrote:It's quite a bit more than the Define R4 and P280, though. If you're going to spend money, might as well get a Silverstone Fortress FT-02 and do it right the first time.
End User wrote:Airmantharp wrote:It's quite a bit more than the Define R4 and P280, though. If you're going to spend money, might as well get a Silverstone Fortress FT-02 and do it right the first time.
The 550D is only $35 more than the R4 while the FT02B is $145 more than the R4. That is a massive difference.
The FT02B is an awkward case. The OP would be better off with the R4 and take that $145 and put it towards a good SSD (or two).
To the OP: I'm running a 120GB boot SSD and a 480GB SSD for my apps/games. Money well spent.
Airmantharp wrote:End User wrote:Airmantharp wrote:It's quite a bit more than the Define R4 and P280, though. If you're going to spend money, might as well get a Silverstone Fortress FT-02 and do it right the first time.
The 550D is only $35 more than the R4 while the FT02B is $145 more than the R4. That is a massive difference.
The FT02B is an awkward case. The OP would be better off with the R4 and take that $145 and put it towards a good SSD (or two).
To the OP: I'm running a 120GB boot SSD and a 480GB SSD for my apps/games. Money well spent.
Point being, if you need more than an R4, you're cooling three GPUs on air, and need a real case. The FT-02 beats the hell out of anything Corsair has at any price on air cooling (and pretty much anything anyone else has) when you throw in three GPUs.
ADHDadditiv wrote:My budget is $1400 CANADIAN (With taxes, taxes are 12%) (preferably less but I will go higher for the right equipment)
Must have:
i5-3570k
Full tower (with spot for water cooling)
Corsair H100 water cooling system
I prefer a tower that looks cool, but thats not a requirement.
Multi-Screen GPU would be bonus, but I really really dont care, I would only be using it for GW2 so its really not a big deal.
Go nuts guys n gals. This is for gaming.
PS:I will be overclocking the i5 to 4.5 MHz, maybe more.
JustAnEngineer wrote:$230 Intel Core i5-3570K
$155 -20MIR Asus P8Z77-V LK
$156 2x8 GiB PC3-14900 Corsair Vengeance CMZ16GX3M2A1866C10R (DDR3-1866, CAS 10, 1.5 V)
or $111 2x8 GiB G.Skill F3-1600C9D-16GSR (DDR3-1600, CAS 9, 1.5 V)
$240 256 GB Samsung 830
or $120 128 GB Samsung 830
$120 2 TB Seagate ST2000DM001
$70 LG CH12LS28 BD-ROM/DVD-RW
etc.
End User wrote:Airmantharp wrote:It's quite a bit more than the Define R4 and P280, though. If you're going to spend money, might as well get a Silverstone Fortress FT-02 and do it right the first time.
The 550D is only $35 more than the R4 while the FT02B is $145 more than the R4. That is a massive difference.
The FT02B is an awkward case. The OP would be better off with the R4 and take that $145 and put it towards a good SSD (or two).
To the OP: I'm running a 120GB boot SSD and a 480GB SSD for my apps/games. Money well spent.
ADHDadditiv wrote:The R4 is a bland ass case, not what im looking for at all, the corsair is also bland as hell, same as the FT-02... I did say I wanted it to look cool right?
I prefer a tower that looks cool, but thats not a requirement.
ADHDadditiv wrote:My budget is $1400 CANADIAN (With taxes, taxes are 12%) (preferably less but I will go higher for the right equipment)
Must have:
i5-3570k
Full tower (with spot for water cooling)
Corsair H100 water cooling system
I prefer a tower that looks cool, but thats not a requirement.
Multi-Screen GPU would be bonus, but I really really dont care, I would only be using it for GW2 so its really not a big deal.
Go nuts guys n gals. This is for gaming.
PS:I will be overclocking the i5 to 4.5 MHz, maybe more.
superjawes wrote:First off:ADHDadditiv wrote:The R4 is a bland ass case, not what im looking for at all, the corsair is also bland as hell, same as the FT-02... I did say I wanted it to look cool right?I prefer a tower that looks cool, but thats not a requirement.
I believe the gerbils looked at this and suggested functional cases with good cooling and low noise levels, as are typically preferred by this community.
Secondly, you should take a look at the most recent System Guide and get an idea of what your overall system would look like and get a better budget picture.
Lastly, you will get much farther in picking out components if you actually list out tangible requirements and feeback on suggested components rather than "that's a bland ass case" or "STOP BICKERING ABOUT THE DAMN CASE AND PLEASE HELP ME!" If you need a GPU suggestion, what games are you going to be playing? At what resolution? At what settings? All of those will drive what kind of GPU you will need, and that has to be brought into the scope of your whole budget, otherwise we can simply suggest a GTX 690 and call it done (even though it will probably break budget by a long shot).
ADHDadditiv wrote:My friend helped me build this, on newegg.ca
Intel Core i5-3570k $234.99
Cooler Master HAF 932 $113.99 (It was combo'ed with the ram)
G.Skill Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) $90.99
2x Seagate Barracuda ST3750525AS 750GB 7200RPM SATA 6GB Internal $139.98 for both
Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB $139.99
MSI Z77A-G43 LGA 115 Intel Z77 $118.99
Corsair H100 $117.49
With shipping and taxes $1,459.33
How is this for a build? Will the motherboard be enough to handle everything I am throwing at it. I am planning on adding a second 7870 in the future, will everything be enough.
PS: I have a crap load of fans at home from my dad's previous builds.
sherlock wrote:
OK so your budget is 1400/1.12= 1250 Candian Dollars, I will base it off my build and look for items on newegg.ca(in Canadian Dollars), ncix might be cheaper but I never used that site before.
Processor : Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz $235
Memory : G.Skill Ares F3-1600C8D-8GAB(2X4) 8G $43.99 (16G is overkill for another 1-2 years, if you want that double this price)
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V LK $128.99 after rebate
Graphics : EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW $414.99
Storage : OCZ Vertex 4 256GBSSD $219.99
Enclosure : Define R4 $109.99 (Cooler Master Storm Enforcer might be cool looking to you, at any rate whehter a case looks cool to you is up to you,just don't overspend for full tower that you don't need)
DVD-RW : LG Black SATA 24X DVD Burner $17.99
CPUFan : COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO $34.99 (you will have to give up a lot else where fit a full tower case(most of those are in the 150 and up range & H100 which is at least $110 in you budget, both not needed for how much you will OC).
PSU : Rosewill Hive 650 W $89.99
Total: $1201.92(rest goes to shipping etc)
Much better Graphic card and a SSD, you even have room to add a H100/Full Tower/HDD going by your friend's $1359. 670 FTW can only be beaten by 7970 GHZ & Overclocked GTX680 while significantly cheaper than both.
ADHDadditiv wrote:sherlock wrote:
OK so your budget is 1400/1.12= 1250 Candian Dollars, I will base it off my build and look for items on newegg.ca(in Canadian Dollars), ncix might be cheaper but I never used that site before.
Processor : Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz $235
Memory : G.Skill Ares F3-1600C8D-8GAB(2X4) 8G $43.99 (16G is overkill for another 1-2 years, if you want that double this price)
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V LK $128.99 after rebate
Graphics : EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW $414.99
Storage : OCZ Vertex 4 256GBSSD $219.99
Enclosure : Define R4 $109.99 (Cooler Master Storm Enforcer might be cool looking to you, at any rate whehter a case looks cool to you is up to you,just don't overspend for full tower that you don't need)
DVD-RW : LG Black SATA 24X DVD Burner $17.99
CPUFan : COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO $34.99 (you will have to give up a lot else where fit a full tower case(most of those are in the 150 and up range & H100 which is at least $110 in you budget, both not needed for how much you will OC).
PSU : Rosewill Hive 650 W $89.99
Total: $1201.92(rest goes to shipping etc)
Much better Graphic card and a SSD, you even have room to add a H100/Full Tower/HDD going by your friend's $1359. 670 FTW can only be beaten by 7970 GHZ & Overclocked GTX680 while significantly cheaper than both.
Actually I was thinking NCIX would be better because I live 4 hours away from one of their buildings. I could drive and go pick it up. But as it pertains to your build, I need the internal memory to be large, I make and edit video's for youtube so I need the space on the main disk as so I dont ruin another SSD (had a 2tb solid state, it died because of the editing and uploading off of it). And the reason I want the water cooling is because I dont want the processor to even get warm, so that it lasts longer. I may turn up the overclock, as stated, but I would need it to be stable under stress for at least 14 hours (i sometime do the nono of leaving the game running and walking away for a couple hours).
ADHDadditiv wrote:Your right, sorry I was being belligerent I am currently playing alot of Battlefield 3 and Anno 2070. I will be playing Guild Wars 2 and Borderlands 2 when it does come out. I was looking at a SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7870 for $299, but I have no idea if that will be enough. But really, they do need to stop arguing about the cases.
ADHDadditiv wrote:Actually I was thinking NCIX would be better because I live 4 hours away from one of their buildings. I could drive and go pick it up. But as it pertains to your build, I need the internal memory to be large, I make and edit video's for youtube so I need the space on the main disk as so I dont ruin another SSD (had a 2tb solid state, it died because of the editing and uploading off of it). And the reason I want the water cooling is because I dont want the processor to even get warm, so that it lasts longer. I may turn up the overclock, as stated, but I would need it to be stable under stress for at least 14 hours (i sometime do the nono of leaving the game running and walking away for a couple hours).
JustAnEngineer wrote:Here you go:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/23422
TR's editors may not understand how to stick to a $900 budget, but they have selected some tasty hardware for you.
sherlock wrote:-Sound card(Mobo audio is good enough): -48.99
- Drop the SSD(-198.99) to fund your H100(+104.99): -94
New Total: $1245.02, fits neatly into your budget and does everything you need.
superjawes wrote:sherlock wrote:-Sound card(Mobo audio is good enough): -48.99
- Drop the SSD(-198.99) to fund your H100(+104.99): -94
New Total: $1245.02, fits neatly into your budget and does everything you need.
Disagree with those.
If you have nice(er) speakers/headphones, a sound card can certainly improve things. If you're sticking to basics, sure, cut it out and save the cash, but it's a solid performance boost if needed.
As for SSD, I that's one of the best reasons to upgrade nowadays. New Mobos will carry 6 Gbps, and with SSD prices hitting < $1/GB, the value is worth it.
That being said, you could swap the GTX 670 with the 660 Ti in the Sweet Spot and save $90, do the same with SSDs and get $104, then cut out the Blu-Ray drive and easily make budget.
When it comes to the case, I question the need for a full tower. OP, would you care to clarify why you need full ATX? Just curious, since Mid-ATX towers can still house a LOT of drives, especially if the manufacturer is smart with laying things out, if the OP wants the sound card he can always get it later, 0 need for it to be included in the initial build.