Which gaming pc is better, need experienced advice?

[excel_services]

First computer:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/desk ... 438148.htm
or
Second Computer:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/desk ... 947193.htm

Thanks!

[TheEmrys]

I'd have to go with the H77 chipset on the Super Gaming. It also includes Office Starter instead of just a trial version.

Personally, I'd find one with a Z77. But that's for my needs, not necessarily yours.

HOWEVER - Neither come with a full, purchased version of Windows.

* OS --- Pre-Install Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit 30 days trial version

-Microsoft Windows 7 64bits Trial Version

I'd pass on both. They aren't even giving you a full OS.

[superjawes]

Also, neither come with an SSD, something that even the Sweet Spot has. And TheEmrys pointed out, you will need a full version of Windows with either (and even a System Builders Machine), and that will be another significant cost on you if you want to keep the machine functional.

[DPete27]

Also, neither come with an SSD

Definetly required if you're spending $2100 on a computer.

I think we should move this to System Builders Anonymous and you tell us exactly what your current and planned usage is. Both of those machines are awful spendy and their hardware is only required for a very small niche of gamers. If all you're doing is gaming, an i5-3450 is the most you need for $100 less than the i7-3770, and a GTX 670 almost matches GTX 680 performance while shaving another $100 off the price tag. Even with those two "downgrades" you're still looking at machine that is grossly overpowered for the vast majority of gamers.

[shaq_mobile]

I'd encourage you to try and build your own system. They aren't doing anything for you with those builds. I built the first system system on newegg and it totalled $1262USD ($1514 after conversion, but I don't know how much parts will cost you over there). Just keep in mind how much that 18 month parts and labor warranty is costing you. Also remember that you don't get windows or office, if you are gonna purchase those, tack on $100 at least for windows and $150 for office (i recommend openoffice). So total system price is more like $2350. Over double the system cost. Also, like Pete recommended, you may want to reconsider the entire build. Buyer's remorse is never pleasant. On top of it all, building computers has never been easier and it's a fun thing to learn with a relatively short learning curve. It's impossible to plug things in the wrong place and if you buy from a reputable site, you can easily return DOAs and any other lemony parts (within a month).

Thanks Engineer, for the heads up on OPs location.

[JustAnEngineer]

I've moved this thread to the System Builders Anonymous forum.

Since the original poster linked to web sites in New Zealand, quoting prices in U.S. dollars from Newegg probably isn't an apples-to-apples comparison.

[absurdity]

I think you'd be better off targeting something with an i5 rather than an i7. The i7 comes at a premium, and all it has is HyperThreading, which doesn't help gaming much (and can even hurt it). Trading an i7 for an i5 and put the money saved towards an SSD!

The Windows situation is concerning, definitely get something with a full Windows install as well.

[shaq_mobile]

I've moved this thread to the System Builders Anonymous forum.

Since the original poster linked to web sites in New Zealand, quoting prices in U.S. dollars from Newegg probably isn't an apples-to-apples comparison.

Oh crud! Fair enough, I didn't even notice that. I'll watch that a little more carefully next time.