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How Many CPU hours donated to distributed computing?

Wed Apr 17, 2002 12:10 pm

I'll start this off. I've contributed 11.468 CPU years or 100,460 CPU hours in just under 3 years of real time.
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi- ... _stats_new
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Wed Apr 17, 2002 12:37 pm

u better get with the program we folding now........ :P
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Wed Apr 17, 2002 1:21 pm

I did, see root thread above. But I will still SETI on a couple boxes. That way I can have some Fold and SETI too.':P'
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Wed Apr 17, 2002 2:01 pm

My SETI stats are pretty pathetic by comparison, only 1.375 years. Kinda lost interest after a few months. My UD score is even worse, only 122 days (though I've only loaded it on one computer). I can't find if the Folding stats have CPU time listed, but I havent looked to hard either.... ;)
 
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Wed Apr 17, 2002 6:43 pm

Let's see. I've put in something like 16 CPU years into the Distributed.Net RC5 effort.
 
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Thu Apr 18, 2002 1:09 pm

What's SETI?
 
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Thu Apr 18, 2002 1:31 pm

SETI @ Home is a distributed project where chunks of radio telescope data are analyzed to see if little green men are trying to contact us from afar. So far they haven't had much to say.
 
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Thu Apr 18, 2002 2:56 pm

O I see. So with everyones computers do they manage to analyse everything that comes in?
 
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Thu Apr 18, 2002 3:23 pm

q_bot_w11 wrote:
O I see. So with everyones computers do they manage to analyse everything that comes in?
And then some. At one point they had more computers than work units to analyze. They were sending out redundant work units for a while until they changed the client to do a more thorough analysis (and therefore take longer).
 
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Thu Apr 18, 2002 4:35 pm

Doh, and they are still finding nothing? It's almost enough to make me belive there's nothing out there. There's gota be though? Surely? (Maybe this should be moved to religion and politics? :) )
 
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Mon Apr 22, 2002 7:03 pm

q_bot_w11, a few things with SETI that mean they haven't found anything, and consequently, are wasting our CPU cycles

Assume for a moment that their solar system/planet + star came into being about the same time as our solar system... about 10 billion years ago IIRC... the whole universe is estimated to be about 16 billion years old, with about a few billion to form all the elements from hydrogen fusion, and then another billion or so for the gases to come togehter, so that's a fairly okay assumption

Now assume that their planet took about 3.5 billion years to cool down properly, like ours did, and then another billion years for it to start producing intelligent life...

That's about 5 billion years for that planet's population to send out a signal a few times, give up trying, cause global warming, polute the atmosphere and cause a nuclear winter killing everyone on the planet... not to mention that their star might have gone nova before then...

Now, assuming they will use the same frequencies that have been scanned (that is, of course, assuming they know about and are using radio waves), assume they are sending out a signal in the first place...

That's a few assumptions already!

Now, the closest galaxy to us, the andromeda galaxy, is either 2 or 2 million light years away... one light year = 9,467,280,000,000 km, or 5,883,952,765,693 miles

When you send out a signal like that, unless you know where you are sending it and can channel the wave in that direction, you are sending it in all directions...

Signal strength is proportional to 1/(distance)^2... i.e. when the distance doubles, the signal strength drops to a quarter of what it was (I know you proably know this already, just making sure)... If the signal strength at 10km is 150, then the strength at one light year is something like 150/2^31...

Now, even assuming that against all these odds, we find a signal we BELIEVE is from another world, what do we do? Try to decode it? How? Send one back that probably won't even get noticed?

So the SETI project is looking for signals that are weak beyond comprehension, in the midst of a load of radio static, that we have no proof exist, or that we are looking for the right signals in the right place.

Oh and did I mention that the only planet we've found that can possibly sustain life so far(we "found" it by measuring gravitational wobbles caused by the gravity of the planet affecting the course of the light given off by the star it orbits) is something like billions of light years away? That's a real weak signal. Oh, and that particular planet has only one side that ever faces the star due to the gravity caused by it, and the winds this creates makes Red Spot on Jupiter seem like the ideal place to spend a picnic... Or whatever that big storm is called...

Because it's billions of light years away, we won't receive that signal, EVER! In 4.5 billion years our sun will have taken us out before contracting into a dwarf, that's assuming we make it that far as a species...

No point looking there, let's go spend a loada government money finding another planet that we'll never even see (due to the relative brightness of the star and the distance it is away) that we'll never prove has life on it, that could be used for something like a hospital...

Suddenly crunching proteins for a possible cure for Alzheimer's seems mighty attractive, almost worth it :-P
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Mon Apr 22, 2002 7:19 pm

P.S. sos about the long post btw, but I reckon it's safe to say that TR picked the best distributed client out of SETI and FAH...

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Thu May 09, 2002 4:26 am

Hey IntelMole, just to be a contradictory kind of fellow, I will say this:

A cure for Alzheimer's will only help those old folks remember that there is not much more in the universe we could find via SETI than what they already knew about this pathetic little planet. Making them want to forget. :P

{Sorry to those who have relatives with Alzheimer's}

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