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I.S.T. wrote:Did you read the thread I linked?
sschaem wrote:Did you read the EU document I linked and quoted?
sschaem wrote:I.S.T. wrote:Did you read the thread I linked?
what about it ? 99% is drivel
"Maybe a ZX81 was silent, or an amiga/atari when floppy drive wasn't in use, but I sure remember hard disk drives to be noisy as hell"
"RV790 has more work on it done in comparison to 7970---> 7970 GHz where you had different binning only"
Did you read the EU document I linked and quoted?
sschaem wrote:Like someone said "Whats next, they will require F1 car to reach 35MPG next season ?"
morphine wrote:The article is FUD - Nordichardware pulled a 320Gb/s number out of nowhere and ran with that. The PDF they link to is a study.
Flatland_Spider wrote:sschaem wrote:Like someone said "Whats next, they will require F1 car to reach 35MPG next season ?"
That wouldn't be a bad idea. It would make F1 more interesting.
MrJP wrote:Flatland_Spider wrote:sschaem wrote:Like someone said "Whats next, they will require F1 car to reach 35MPG next season ?"
That wouldn't be a bad idea. It would make F1 more interesting.
Actually the proposed 2014 F1 regulations have both a maximum fuel flow rate limit and a total race fuel mass limit. It works out at quite a bit less than 35mpg however.
notfred wrote:The solutions for that would likely solve the world's energy problem within a decade.
notfred wrote:Limiting the bus bandwidth may be a consequence initially but someone will just invent a novel way to get the bandwidth down the bus in a more energy efficient manor and we'll be off to the races again.
Glorious wrote:notfred wrote:Limiting the bus bandwidth may be a consequence initially but someone will just invent a novel way to get the bandwidth down the bus in a more energy efficient manor and we'll be off to the races again.
You are aware that there is a underlying physical reality that may not be surmountable by human ingenuity?
We call them the "laws" of thermodynamics, but it's not like humanity passed them.
JBI wrote:I doubt we're near that limit yet. We'll probably need a radical change (e.g. move to an optical bus) at some point though.
Flatland_Spider wrote:sschaem wrote:Like someone said "Whats next, they will require F1 car to reach 35MPG next season ?"
That wouldn't be a bad idea. It would make F1 more interesting.
notfred wrote:MrJP wrote:Actually the proposed 2014 F1 regulations have both a maximum fuel flow rate limit and a total race fuel mass limit. It works out at quite a bit less than 35mpg however.
Those F1 engineers are very bright and creative. I've said for ages they should allow them any engines they can invent as long as they can prove it is safe (including crash test), and they start the cars with X joules of fuel at the start of the race. In the first year X is equivalent to the current full tank of gas then every year reduce X by 5%. The solutions for that would likely solve the world's energy problem within a decade.
Similarly here, I don't have a problem with them limiting the amount of energy in a computer system. Limiting the bus bandwidth may be a consequence initially but someone will just invent a novel way to get the bandwidth down the bus in a more energy efficient manor and we'll be off to the races again.
Buub wrote:Flatland_Spider wrote:sschaem wrote:Like someone said "Whats next, they will require F1 car to reach 35MPG next season ?"
That wouldn't be a bad idea. It would make F1 more interesting.
Correction: it would make F1 boring as hell...
BIF wrote:NASCAR should host Prius Races on Sundays! The goal: To see who can go the farthest on a half US gallon of fuel (64 ounces; about the same as a Super Big Gulp) and yet still finish before Christmas.
On second thought, all car racing is boring to me. I would rather watch my fingernails grow.
Arclight wrote:... Why? Well because for years now, during idle or even low load, graphic cards underclock both the GPU and the GDDR memory automagically, so there is no video card in existance (that i know of) that could possibly have 320GB/s bandwidth during idle with stock BIOS (or stock settings).
ShadowEyez wrote:Seems like one of two things would happen: either they would re-write the laws for higher end video cards and CPU's to be exempt (they are a high margin product for the makers afterall) or they would levy some sort of "luxry tax" on the products like they do with the gas-guzzler tax for cars.
clone wrote:your (sic) proposing reducing F1 racing down to a level below cart racing.
clone wrote:back in the day when we didn't know as much a "run what you brung" made for very interesting racing, privateers stood a chance of winning despite the odds but those days of garage wonders are all done now.My dream for F1 comes from the Can-Am days of '67-'72. No real rules (other than safety requirements) and run what you brung. I have to think that the Porsche 917 turboPanzers would still be competitive.
friend of mine's overstuffed kid won a championship in cart racing last year despite his laws of physics limitations, drove the other parents crazy and they demanded his engine be torn down 4 times for inspection, he didn't win often (once) but was always in the top 4 (several 2nd's and thirds) & finished every race which was a credit to the way his dad built his car, no other racer could make the same claim.
when I drop by his house and see the photo of his son sitting on his car with the championship trophy, it just looks so wrong.... c'est la vie I guess.
their was no money in that series.... at least no radical amounts, if their was some real money being applied he'd have no chance whatsoever and would have finished last in every race given he scaled 2X's heavier than his nearest competition.
Buub wrote:I haven't seen the race, so this is complete and total speculation, but it could also be that he was taught how to drive well, better than the other kids. The driver is more important than the car. This has been proven repeatedly.
Locally in autocross here, there is this couple. They're relatively non-descript, slightly overweight, pale, average-looking Americans. I believe they're both engineers. They are nice folks, but from appearances, totally unremarkable. She also happens to be the years-in-a-row fastest woman in America in autocross. He's almost as fast.
Arclight wrote:Guys, let's please get back on topic. Car analogies never worked that great for IT stuff.
So how about it, are there any updates regarding the issue? Is it really going to affect cards at load or only during idle?