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just brew it! wrote:That's moronic.
Arclight wrote:What's the point of Windows anymore and where do we look for an alternative?
just brew it! wrote:Arclight wrote:What's the point of Windows anymore and where do we look for an alternative?
The point is that it is still the most widely deployed desktop OS, and has the biggest software ecosystem.
The alternatives are fairly obvious (Mac or Linux), but depending on what you use your PC for they may not be practical.
Arclight wrote:just brew it! wrote:Arclight wrote:What's the point of Windows anymore and where do we look for an alternative?
The point is that it is still the most widely deployed desktop OS, and has the biggest software ecosystem.
The alternatives are fairly obvious (Mac or Linux), but depending on what you use your PC for they may not be practical.
How could Mac be an alternative? I thought it's understood my alergic reaction was caused by Microsoft artificially stopping support for hardware. I always used Windows because it iswas the most open platform in terms of hardware support. How could you not understand?
Arclight wrote:Linux afaik has bad driver support, or at least that is the myth.
Chrispy_ wrote:This is Microsoft, they've been lowering my expectations since, uh, forever actually.
Krynn72 wrote:Finally, I find a place where someone else posted about this problem. I made a post on another forum about my issues here: http://www.eightforums.com/tablet-touch ... lease.html
Basically, I have an HP TX2000 that worked great with the preview. Upon buying the system builder version of windows 8 and installing it, it doesnt work at all anymore. I tried a bunch of workarounds, including getting new wacom drivers which only sort-of worked. Those closest I got, which really pissed me off, was by editing my disk (ripping it and creating a custom iso) so that I could skip entering the product key temporarily (like you could in all older versions of Windows). While I was in this "trial mode" it worked great again, just like it used to. Then I went home, put in my key, activated windows, and restarted... now it doesnt work at all again. Clearly its just some kind of "switch" that gets toggled when it see what version you're using.
This has pissed me off to no extent. My guess is its probably a registry entry, like someone else mentioned in this thread, and in my other thread. I dont know much about looking through the registry to find things though, so now I'm stuck waiting around for someone else to do it. If I knew what to look for or how to find it I'd be willing to do the legwork to find it, because I've spent so much time already trying to figure this out, and I'm sure as hell not buying a $900+ laptop just to get an arbitrary windows 8 certified set of hardware. I'm also not going to spend another $40 to "upgrade" my full version of Windows 8 to make it actually work.
Arclight wrote:Krynn72 wrote:If the trial version works, you could compare the registries with the activated version. Ask someone to lend you a laptop on which you can install Windows 8, keep it as trial, and get to work.....
Krynn72 wrote:and I'm sure as hell not buying a $900+ laptop just to get an arbitrary windows 8 certified set of hardware. I'm also not going to spend another $40 to "upgrade" my full version of Windows 8 to make it actually work.
onlysublime wrote:Krynn72 wrote:to block it was silly and stupid.
Ryu Connor wrote:We toast a beer to your brave adventure early adopter.
If it is a perception issue they're worried about, why allow it on the upgrade and retail versions?
setbit wrote:It's just that they're being partly "clever", and partly stupid in a non-obvious way that makes it look like they're just being evil.
Ryu Connor wrote:Upgrade and retail are more likely to go on old machines and the end user will expect their existing touch experience to work.
Krynn72 wrote:Ryu Connor wrote:Upgrade and retail are more likely to go on old machines and the end user will expect their existing touch experience to work.
Is there a retail version of windows 8 though? Is there even one planned? I admit, I jumped into the system builder version without looking much at the alternatives, since I've used system builder versions plenty of times without problems on their old OSes, but as far as I know, the system builder version, for all intents and purposes, IS the retail version with Windows 8.