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Flying Fox wrote:Adapting HDMI to DVI-D requires only a simple cable. I like this one.The newer, cheaper Dells only have VGA/DVI/DP but no HDMI, but the Asus ones do.
DPete27 wrote:He's a graphic designer, dabbles in photography [...] I'm not really comfortable with the Korean monitors.
JustAnEngineer wrote:Flying Fox wrote:Adapting HDMI to DVI-D requires only a simple cable. I like this one.The newer, cheaper Dells only have VGA/DVI/DP but no HDMI, but the Asus ones do.
DPete27 wrote:It looks like I'm not going to be able to afford a 27" monitor that's halfway decent so I think we should narrow this down to 24" models. That Asus PA246Q looks pretty decent. I actually remember reading this review of it back in July. Anand seemd to think that it was a solid performer, but a bit overpriced for what you're getting. How does that stack up to the Dell U2410? Unfortunately Anand hasn't reviewed that one yet which is a shame because their monitor reviews are very knowledgeable and picky which is helpful. (I don't like sites that just say every monitor is great. I want to know how each compares with the competition) I would like to find a trustworthy reviewer that has reviewed both monitors. I remember there's another site that does good, educated, in-depth monitor reviews but I can't recall what it was now. Any ideas?
The PA248Q also looks good in terms of having LED backlight, USB3.0, great on-sale price, and factory calibrated 100% sRGB. (he probably won't be calibrating it, so factory calibration is a plus) Looks like that would be a direct competitor with the Dell U2412M. Not sure which of those is better.
DPete27 wrote:This is a question that only your friend can answer. Simply put, AdobeRGB/wide gamut have more available colours (1.06 billion? vs 16.7million). Does he use colour aware applications for his work and what does he use at work? If you ask him about sRGB vs AdobeRGB and he gives you a blank stare, then chances are sRGB is going to be ok. If he actually tells you that he needs AdobeRGB, then he needs AdobeRGB.Here's another question since I'm not a graphic designer and don't use photoshop: what should I be looking for? sRGB accuracy or Adobe RGB accuracy. It seems like 100% sRGB is easier to accomplish than Adobe RGB, but what's the difference and what is he most likely to need/use. From what I've seen, he dabbles in a little bit of everything: photography (hence this thread), print media, web-design, etc. Are ~$300 8-bit panels like the Asus PA248Q with its 100% pre-calibrated sRGB sufficient or is he really going to need the 10-bit Adobe RGB accuracy of more expensive models like the PA246Q and U2410? He works for a graphic design firm, so this monitor is more for free-lance (on the side) work. I want to get him something that's suited for his needs, but $200 difference is hard to ignore and frankly, I just don't have the know-how to say which category I should be looking in.
ShadowEyez wrote:have the HP Z2440 - nicr 24" screen
Flying Fox wrote:Does he use colour aware applications for his work and what does he use at work? If you ask him about sRGB vs AdobeRGB and he gives you a blank stare, then chances are sRGB is going to be ok. If he actually tells you that he needs AdobeRGB, then he needs AdobeRGB.
Ryu Connor wrote:He's going to be limited to 8bits per channel with that video card and that output medium. The resolution of HDMI also tends to get capped at 1920x1200 by most vendors.That's not that big an issue though, bits per channel and gamut are different things. You can have low bits and still manage a high gamut. The AdobeRGB as a feature point matters.
Derfer wrote:Unless something recently changed Dell IPS monitors shouldn't be on the table. Surprised anyone would recommend them with that atrocious AG coating. Like looking at everything through a Vaseline coating. There's a reason for threads like this http://www.overclock.net/t/1216559/how-to-remove-anti-glare-coating-from-a-dell-u2312hm-monitor-and-others
JustAnEngineer wrote:The UltraSharp U2410 is a gorgeous monitor.
When looking at the cheapest IPS monitors available, do try to confirm that you're getting an 8-bit S-IPS or H-IPS LCD panel rather than a 6-bit eIPS LCD panel.
Flying Fox wrote:The U2410 is on sale for the next 15 hours or so, $400.
DPete27 wrote:Errg, I was traveling for work and missed the deal. That was a heck of deal. Thanks for the heads up anyway.
Chrispy_ wrote:They were $700+ at launch but I've heard people mention them going as low as $450 in sales.
vandy wrote:Don't stress out about the 10bit output vs 8bit panel type stuff. Unless he is running a professional video card capable of 10bit output (FireGL) with specific programs (such as Photoshop with 30bit option enabled), he wont be able to utilize a 10bit output capable monitor.
XTF wrote:vandy wrote:Don't stress out about the 10bit output vs 8bit panel type stuff. Unless he is running a professional video card capable of 10bit output (FireGL) with specific programs (such as Photoshop with 30bit option enabled), he wont be able to utilize a 10bit output capable monitor.
Are you sure that's right? What about monitor (OSD) settings such as contrast and color control? They might map two difference input values to the same output value if the output is 8bit.