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BIF wrote:What exactly was your budget? There are a few (relatively) affordable kits out there that can get you started on custom water cooling. As I've said in previous threads, water cooling is just as much about the hobby as it is about getting good temps.My original plans were to build a dual liquid cooling loop for the CPU and GPU, but since then I realized that my enthusiasm extended beyond my budget! So now I have also "cooled my jets" and I have decided to stick with the stock air cooler on the HD 7970 and put a new closed-loop liquid cooler in for the CPU.
cynan wrote:But don't take my word for it, see the first post here.
cynan wrote:Why would you go dual cooling loops? I'm pretty sure single loops have generally been shown to be more efficient. By more efficient, I mean that a single loop using the same number of radiators as dual loops combined will be more efficient at removing excess heat, overall. Plus they are easier to build....
mortifiedPenguin wrote:What exactly was your budget? There are a few (relatively) affordable kits out there that can get you started on custom water cooling. As I've said in previous threads, water cooling is just as much about the hobby as it is about getting good temps.
Summary:
extreme workloads: neither is better if load ratios are evenly balanced
normal workloads: single loop is better and potentially has pump redundancy.
MadManOriginal wrote:I know water-cooling is sexy and all but I'm going to against the grain of the thread here...why not a good-performing tower style air cooler? I remember tests of closed loop coolers showing that they didn't perform remarkably better, either in temps or sound, compared to air coolers. But since noise is a big concern for you, there's another possible advantage to air coolers: the fan will be 'buried' further into the case than a water cooler radiator fan which is right next to the opening in the case. This might reduce CPU cooler fan noise even if you do have a case fan mounted where the radiator would have been.
It's hard to say for sure how this would work out, just some things to think about.
vargis14 wrote:I recommend either the h80i or the h100i they both come with good monitoring software and the h80i is double thick and cools just about as good as the new h100i......it even is better then the old original h100.
I have the haf 922 and the h100s fit perfect in our cases. If I was you I would get the h100i and put the 200mm top fan in the side panel to cool the 7970 and chipset/vrms on the motherboard and graphics card. I would probably also get a couple high quality highest cfm 120mm fans that are under 30db sound wise for either a push pull setup. Or replacing the fans that come with the radiator.
If you setup a h100 push pull setup I would use the high quality fans as pull fans and the corsair fans as the push fans controlled by the software.
BIF wrote:Also, I just never liked the complications that tower coolers bring. Downforce on the motherboard, air directional issues, the potential obstruction of VRAM, MOSFET, memory slots, etcetera. And to me, towers are all noisy. Yeah, it's probably psychological at this point, but that is my reality.
BIF wrote:MadManOriginal wrote:I know water-cooling is sexy and all but I'm going to against the grain of the thread here...why not a good-performing tower style air cooler? I remember tests of closed loop coolers showing that they didn't perform remarkably better, either in temps or sound, compared to air coolers. But since noise is a big concern for you, there's another possible advantage to air coolers: the fan will be 'buried' further into the case than a water cooler radiator fan which is right next to the opening in the case. This might reduce CPU cooler fan noise even if you do have a case fan mounted where the radiator would have been.
It's hard to say for sure how this would work out, just some things to think about.
Thank you for the input, and yes, I could use a tower cooler, but as noted in my OP, my case is a HAF 932. For those who may not know, the HAF series is mostly mesh-styled. Essentially, this is a very open case, which I like very much. But it does not shield the ears from the interior noise-makers.
Also, I just never liked the complications that tower coolers bring. Downforce on the motherboard, air directional issues, the potential obstruction of VRAM, MOSFET, memory slots, etcetera. And to me, towers are all noisy. Yeah, it's probably psychological at this point, but that is my reality.
vargis14 wrote:...I just wonder with the HIS cards custom circuit board if you can get a full coverage block for it....
I know the HAF932 case can hold a nice 240mm radiator along with 2 120mm radiators along with a nice nice 5 1/2 inch x 2 front bay reservoir along with a beefy high flow pump Say goodbye to any cooling worries. That bad boy might hit 10 degrees over ambient max....even overclocked.
BIF wrote:Pardon the late response... I was out for the weekend.I don't know what that means... "if load ratios are evenly balanced"... Huh?
BIF wrote:To be honest, I'm not really sure what you mean here. But, since I'm a bit late in returning to the party, feel free not to address this point.If you're installing a single loop for all your major heat-sources, you don't have much choice because you have what you have, right? I'm buying the parts that I'm buying based on my needs and desires for specific capabilities. THEN I will cool what I have, right?
mortifiedPenguin wrote:
The article/post would make a bit more sense if we could actually see some graphs. My interpretation in the absence of said graphs is that if the load on both components generate roughly the same amount of heat, neither loop type "wins". However, typical workloads are usually asymmetric ones where one component is generating more heat than the other, you'll gain superior results with the other component due to the "added" capacity of the loop.
I have actually seen the "typical" results myself in my single loop. When at max GPU load, CPU temps increase only slightly and vice versa. Only in the situation where both are running at maximum (and the GPUs in this case produce more heat) do I see worse numbers but I think it's rare that you'd encounter a real-life scenario like that.