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derFunkenstein wrote:Didn't they just re-hire someone who was the big brain behind the K8? Not to say it's going to be a magic fix, but maybe not as dire as some in this thread are getting.
derFunkenstein wrote:Didn't they just re-hire someone who was the big brain behind the K8? Not to say it's going to be a magic fix, but maybe not as dire as some in this thread are getting.
ronch wrote:If there's anyone who knows Bulldozer like the back of his hand, it's Mike. And if AMD is gonna tweak the design and squeeze every bit of juice out of it, they're gonna need Mike.
ronch wrote:Honestly, I don't know what all the fuss about Bulldozer is about. I just bought an FX-8350-based PC and it performs well enough and certainly moves things forward for desktop computing. I'm certain it''ll be a beast of a PC for 99% of folks out there.
ronch wrote:Jim Keller's return to AMD doesn't exactly fill me with hope. He stayed at AMD for what, just a year, more or less, when they defined the K8 architecture. I still believe K8's biggest performance enhancing feature was its IMC, and it wasn't really hard to imagine that the next logical step (and low-hanging fruit) in enhancing performance was to integrate the memory controller on-die. More, wider registers also helped, but again, it's all just about extending the registers from 32- to 64-bit. Lastly, there's HyperTransport (aka Lightning Data Transport during its development), which was certainly no small feat back in 2003. I'm not saying Jim isn't a stellar engineer, because I'm sure (and hoping) he is, but as Game_boy pointed out, they've already lost so many heads. Perhaps those heads aren't worth keeping around and Jim is the big kahuna that will propel AMD back to glory. Only time will tell.
jihadjoe wrote:DEC did an IMC with their Alpha 21364 (1998) way before AMD K8 (2003).
Actually, a lot of AMD's "revolutionary" techonologies found in the K7 and K8 come from DEC. Jerry Sanders was really smart in bringing over technology and people like Dirk Meyer over just as DEC's processor business was winding down.
jihadjoe wrote:Actually, a lot of AMD's "revolutionary" techonologies found in the K7 and K8 come from DEC. Jerry Sanders was really smart in bringing over technology and people like Dirk Meyer over just as DEC's processor business was winding down.
ludi wrote:jihadjoe wrote:Actually, a lot of AMD's "revolutionary" techonologies found in the K7 and K8 come from DEC. Jerry Sanders was really smart in bringing over technology and people like Dirk Meyer over just as DEC's processor business was winding down.
This is exactly what I think Samsung is going to do with the remnants of AMD.