UI changes in Product X are hard!
Try to really use it first with an open mind instead of always carrying a bias?
Ignoring the last point, this may help:
http://gizmodo.com/5955139/windows-8-su ... orkarounds
I wonder whose advice it was.
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UI changes in Product X are hard!
Flying Fox wrote:Try to really use it first with an open mind instead of always carrying a bias?
Khali wrote:Flying Fox wrote:Try to really use it first with an open mind instead of always carrying a bias?
Bias, what bias? I don't like it after two weeks of trying to work with it and suddenly I am biased because of this? I like things simple and easy to use and that does not describe Windows 8 at all.
I ask for help and advice and I get implications that I am prejudiced in some way. Seriously, if my not like a piece of software is biased to you, you have larger issues to deal with.
Firestarter wrote:We will just have to hope the OP did not just "run" those downloads, thus leaving the installer files sitting in the temp folders which may get deleted randomly.You probably don't have to download everything again if you didn't delete the installers, as most drivers and stuff have 1 package for Windows 7 and 8.
Firestarter wrote:I missed that part. Coming from XP then there are 3 iterations of UI changes so the jump will be difficult.Do be warned though that although Windows 8 has caught a lot of flak for it's UI choices, Windows 7 is not really that much different (save for Metro, obviously). In fact, the biggest difference by far was between XP and Vista, and I imagine that a lot of UI issues that you have are from features that have been introduced in Vista.
Firestarter wrote:Very good point. Do be careful with this.If you do decide to downgrade to Windows 7, make sure you get a version that actually supports 32GB. You need to get Windows 7 Ultimate, Enterprise or Professional, as Home Premium only supports 16GB.
Khali wrote:From XP it is going to be a big jump, especially if you kept the Windows 95/2000 style "classic" start menu. I chose to embrace the XP's new start menu so I did not fall too far behind. I actually found it better. May I ask what this "anything" is that you cannot find? Other than trying to see if we can help you survive Windows 8 better. If it gets to the point of being palatable, then not downgrading may be an option.My biggest complaint is I have to really dig into the internals of Windows 8 to find anything. Basically things are not where I would think to look for them after years of using XP and about a years time of using 7. For most users, consistency is the key to usability. Microsoft has been anything but consistent in its last three OS offerings.
just brew it! wrote:Issues of "bias" aside, I don't like paying MS every few years for the privilege of a forced "re-education" about their latest concept of what a desktop OS (or office suite, for that matter...) user interface should look like. If I want to deal with the frustration that comes from periodic user interface churn, I can get it for free on Linux!
Flying Fox wrote:Khali wrote:Flying Fox wrote:Try to really use it first with an open mind instead of always carrying a bias?
Bias, what bias? I don't like it after two weeks of trying to work with it and suddenly I am biased because of this? I like things simple and easy to use and that does not describe Windows 8 at all.
I ask for help and advice and I get implications that I am prejudiced in some way. Seriously, if my not like a piece of software is biased to you, you have larger issues to deal with.
Most knocks against the new Windows are based on people coming from 7/XP, and they are mostly basing on how they previously do things. What exactly did you not like about the new system? Are you a totally new computer user? The problem we all have is that most of us have prior experience using other systems, so we are all biased in some way.
I too come from Windows 7 and there are things I don't like in 8 compared to the old ways of doing things (that's the bias). Did you find out new ways of doing things and try to embrace them? The survival guide I linked describes some new (and old) shortcuts, etc. that can help. Did you read up on those and really try using the new system?
cphite wrote:I've looked at the various guides and whatnot that are available... but here's the thing: You shouldn't need a cheat sheet for an operating system.
Ryu Connor wrote:Humans don't like change, but the IT industry is defined by change. Quite the conundrum.
Ryu Connor wrote:Even the vaunted user friendly platforms like iOS or Android require someone to go out and Google an answer sooner or later.
Khali wrote:After two weeks of fighting with 8 I have come to the conclusion I hate it. Is it possible to replace windows 8 with windows 7 without having to wipe the drive and start all over?
bthylafh wrote:aaaaand yet another Windows 8-related thread has disintegrated into
1) I hate Windows 8, and
2) You people who don't like Win8 are idiots.
Chrispy_ wrote:I find every new Microsoft product I encounter to be a mixed bag; For every improvement they make, there is an equal disadvantage in the form of either bloat, loss of functionality, or some other screw up (the sort of thing that even the most devoted and loyal microsoft zealots don't approve of). After months or even years of begrudging resistance, most people eventually learn to tolerate the new way which seems to be about the time that Microsoft do an about-turn, abandon said feature/method and either replace it or drop it for some other conundrum.
Ryu Connor wrote:It is the responsibility of IT to remind their end users that these irritations are the way of things. That's not to say they'll like it, nor is it to say you're supposed to make them like it (albeit if you have the silver tongue to do that, by all means), but it something they should be reminded of before you pull the carpet out from under them with the change.