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frumper15 wrote:Get what's on sale, buy 2 and prepare for one of them to fail sooner or later.
DancinJack wrote:frumper15 wrote:Get what's on sale, buy 2 and prepare for one of them to fail sooner or later.
Shouldn't have to have this attitude going in. If we expect drive makers to make something crappy, they'll continue to do so.
DancinJack wrote:That isn't what I was saying. If I have a product fail on me, I RMA it. I'm just saying that if you continue to buy stuff that fails constantly, they'll keep selling it to you.
just brew it! wrote:The lost productivity incurred due to the failure can easily result in indirect costs which are larger than cost of a replacement drive, so reliability is paramount.
DancinJack wrote:frumper15 wrote:Get what's on sale, buy 2 and prepare for one of them to fail sooner or later.
Shouldn't have to have this attitude going in. If we expect drive makers to make something crappy, they'll continue to do so.
axeman wrote:WD with their segmentation is dumb, especially since they dropped the Blue.
axeman wrote:I had the same with 2 Seagate 7200.11's. The dirty little secret to drive RMAs is that when you RMA them you get another drive that got sent back for RMA by someone else and got patched up till it passed diagnostics, you do not get a new drive. This means it is far more likely to die again.Yeah I have a Seagate 1TB drive that is failed but I've stopped RMA'ing it. I have other Seagates that have been fine. For whatever reason, that particular model was a dud, I have no idea why Seagate didn't just send a different model as a replacement, but every replacement fails within 6 months - this is the 3rd time for the same drive. It's not worth the time.
just brew it! wrote:The Seagate 7200.11s were a nightmare. IMO worst reliability of any hard drive series since the IBM "Deathstar" fiasco over a decade ago.
Arvald wrote:Never be afraid to RMA a product and get the replacement you are entitled to!
Without that then the manufacturers don't actually know about all the failures and continue to publish overly high MTBF numbers.
Lazier_Said wrote:I'm not going to RMA a drive that I wasn't able to zero out and if it was working well enough to do that I wouldn't be RMAing it at all.
Lazier_Said wrote:I haven't yet encountered a drive that politely failed in a manner where that was possible, the failures that have been gradual enough to have any symptoms at all still weren't in any condition to run hours of nonstop writes.
Lazier_Said wrote:I'd settle for a 99% overwrite if the failure allowed. I don't have classified or NDA data but my potentially intact personal data is worth more than a $60 refurb drive to me.
Lazier_Said wrote:The answer is clearly data encryption but keeping it simple prevents me from locking myself out.
ordskiweicz wrote:I am looking for a 2 TB HDD for data use with an SSD for OS. I bought a Samsung Ecogreen (the TR recommended) a while back and so far so good. It had an 11% 1 egg rating.
ordskiweicz wrote:(I do routinely churn new drives for active storage and older ones for backup - so over 2-3 yrs all are replaced or used for offline backup).
Do you just buy one, have backups and hope? It seems amazing quality has declined though costs are up and warranties are shorter. No useful market niche for some corp?
just brew it! wrote:The Seagate 7200.11s were a nightmare. IMO worst reliability of any hard drive series since the IBM "Deathstar" fiasco over a decade ago.