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Arvald wrote:I'd say that another fan is unneeded (I own a H60). you set the unit up that it is exhausting from inside case to out with the air passing through the radiator.
juzz86 wrote:I run an older, double-width H70 with CoolerMaster SickleFlow fans. My thoughts on the reversed orientation Corsair recommend echo Nec's. Unless you have a kick-ass exhaust on the top of your case that can expel all that warm air quick-smart, turn it around and let your front intakes do the hard work. You should put something like a DemCi (sic?) filter over the top, even a piece of flywire, if you do want to use your radiator as an intake, but they do get pretty messy over time, and they are a prick to clean.
I've been very happy with the unit itself, though. The stock fans pushed a lot of air but were too noisy - so they went, but the radiator and pump so far are faultless.
Nec_V20 wrote:juzz86 wrote:I run an older, double-width H70 with CoolerMaster SickleFlow fans. My thoughts on the reversed orientation Corsair recommend echo Nec's. Unless you have a kick-ass exhaust on the top of your case that can expel all that warm air quick-smart, turn it around and let your front intakes do the hard work. You should put something like a DemCi (sic?) filter over the top, even a piece of flywire, if you do want to use your radiator as an intake, but they do get pretty messy over time, and they are a prick to clean.
I've been very happy with the unit itself, though. The stock fans pushed a lot of air but were too noisy - so they went, but the radiator and pump so far are faultless.
I have the CoolerMaster HAF X chassis with two 200 mm fans venting out the top, a side 200 mm fan sucking air in and a 200 mm fan in the front sucking air in. I have the PSU turned so that the air is being sucked out of the chassis and inside I have a 120 mm fan (shunted down to run slower) attached to the hard drive enclosure to whirl the air around. The loudest fan is the little sucker in my XFX Radeon HD 5770 but it is not really noticeable. However I am going to upgrade to a Sapphire HD 5870 2GB with the dual fans and one of the main reasons is to get the box running almost silently.
JustAnEngineer wrote:I recently transplanted my 2½-year old H70 into a new build. I've got it mounted to blow out of the TJ08-E with a pair of new Noctua NF-F12 PWM fans.
I had a second Corsair Hydro H70 on a Phenom II X4 that suffered a pump failure after just a few months.
RickyTick wrote:You could just get the H80i and not have to buy another fan. It's only about $20-$25 more I think. I find the fans to be very quiet and my system runs nice and cool. Even though it was a little buggy at first, the Corsair Link is a nice feature too.
JustAnEngineer wrote:I waited for deals to get my Noctua fans for $20 to $22 each.
juzz86 wrote:JustAnEngineer wrote:I recently transplanted my 2½-year old H70 into a new build. I've got it mounted to blow out of the TJ08-E with a pair of new Noctua NF-F12 PWM fans.
I had a second Corsair Hydro H70 on a Phenom II X4 that suffered a pump failure after just a few months.
I've gotta say that even though I've been lucky with my Corsair stuff, there are enough quality issues floating around to always make me second-guess before purchasing. Doesn't stop me of course, but there's always that niggling little doubt. Still, same can be said for the majority of manufacturers today. I had a lot of trouble with DDR RAM from Corsair in earlier builds, when they first started shipping with heatspreaders. Lots of faulty sticks out of dual-channel kits. Then DDR2 hit, RAM got cheap and it didn't really matter. I'm running 16GB of Vengeance currently, and it's been very good.
As for Noctua, I know they get a good rap everywhere, but I find their fans pretty over-hyped. Heatsinks are fantastic (the C-series especially), but at thirty bucks a throw over this way, there are better performing (on all fronts) fans to be had much cheaper. Alright for you guys Stateside, who get all the good deals
Airmantharp wrote:You want a fan to stay reliable and quiet? Use a filter.
I have yet to convince myself to pay for Noctua fans (though I've wanted to); I've gotten great results with Scythe S-Flex before, but there are many, many good fans out there, and there are very few (if any) real reviews.
Nec_V20 wrote:Airmantharp wrote:You want a fan to stay reliable and quiet? Use a filter.
I have yet to convince myself to pay for Noctua fans (though I've wanted to); I've gotten great results with Scythe S-Flex before, but there are many, many good fans out there, and there are very few (if any) real reviews.
To get back on topic, the fans that originally came with my H80, I turned them on once and then I binned them (actually I have given them away to a couple of friends who had their fans break down on them) because they made an annoying sound.
Airmantharp wrote:...you just complained about the aesthetics of Noctua fans wrecking a clean build after buying fans with translucent blades and LEDs
*It really, really is 'to each his own'. Recommending enclosures runs into similar problems; for instance, I prefer NO lights. I have the BIOS set to turn the power light off on my system for that specific purpose. I think the only thing in the system that glows is the stupid X-Fi label .
Nec_V20 wrote:juzz86,
one motherboard from ASUS was the bane of my professional career back in the day (but not the reason why I went off them personally)
The board was the ASUS P2B and I was Senior German Engineer for Enterprise Disaster-Recovery Tech-Support at the time.
The problem was that it had an onboard SCSI controller (although in SCSI there are no actual controllers, just devices with the highest priority which is ID7 ) and customers were hooking up SCSI tape drives to it. This ended up with them getting Event ID 9 and 11 (SCSI time-outs and failed backups). Almost every day for a time I had at least one person who I had to tell that they would have to add in a separate dedicated SCSI card.
ASUS sold the motherboard under false pretences and the "controller", because of its timings, was only suitable to hard drives (same thing goes for SCSI RAID controllers).
It used to drive me nuts explaining to "IT Managers" that the board they had bought systems based upon with internal tape drives to do local POS backups (for instance) was a pile of crap for the purposes they envisioned and they had to go around and physically augment them with a separate card. For a time every day had its "draw circle, bang head" moment for me - sometimes a lot more than once. I got all the escalations from the obstreperous ones who would not take the message from an underling and wanted to talk to the boss.
Of course they tried the same game on me, but my direct boss was the Director of EMEA Tech-Support and when I told them that if I put them through then he would talk to THEIR boss and I would be talking to someone else tomorrow who would implement what I was suggesting because they would be fired (and he would because it happened a few times when folks didn't take the hint) it got the job done.
God I HATED that board.
I also appreciate the little tidbits there on SCSI - thankyou. As someone younger who's never really touched it (well, short of pulling some old drives and cards out of decommissioned rigs or rigs I'm updating for others) the part about the controllers interests me a lot, as I just don't understand the hierarchy and never really got the chance to play with it.