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NovusBogus wrote:Freq : 1396.93 MHz (199.56 * 7)
I'm not terribly familiar with the FX-4170 but that multiplier looks whack, also the voltage seems low especially for an AMD chip. Were you trying to overclock it?
edit: just looked it up, the multiplier is the problem...it should be 21.5x not 7x. Personally, I blame the motherboard.
TheEmrys wrote:Check your bios. Make sure it is fully up to date. Sounds like it may not support your cpu fully (yet). Also make sure that your mobo supports the 125 watts of your cpu.
Check the mobo manufacturer website, see if there is a newer bios, flash it, should be better. IF its all up to date, turn off the Cool N Quiet (or whatever they call it now) and try it again.
Any chance you didn't plug in the motherboard 12v power? I've seen this happen once, but it was years ago. Most cpu's won't even boot without the 12v line connected.
GeForce6200 wrote:I'll try disabling the core parking, however it seemed to me that it ran the CPU at full frequency, which is what I was thought high performance mode in CP would do. I also went into the BIOS and changed fan control to disabled, this made fan run at full tilt. So after the fan running at 32xx RPM and not 1800m the temps still went to 56 fast, like 30 seconds, in prime 95 until I shut it down. It did not throttle itself though. I wonder if it is possible I have a defective cpu..
Bensam123 wrote:It could be the motherboard too. ECS motherboards are rather flaky.
Bensam123 wrote:I only install them in the most budget oriented, cheapest computers. Even then I've started replacing those with ASrocks (which I got a recommendation for and are quite good for the price). I would never trust my normal system to one.
Bensam123 wrote:A chip or nick in the cooler wouldn't matter as JBI said. Thermal paste will fill that in.
Arclight wrote:1. What do you mean there's a nick in the IHS? Is it big?
2. What stepping is your motherboard? If you don't know, you can use CPU-Z and look at the motherboard tab. From the link of your mobo i noticed that the FX 4170 is supported by the B2g stepping with it's latest BIOS dating from 08/29/2012.
That said, if you say that the temp gets to 60 degrees Celsius and then the chip is throttled down, i guess that's a good thing. The bad thing is that it shouldn't happen even with the stock fan if the CPU is at stock speeds/voltage, especially now that it's winter time and the ambient is usually lower.
Can you please use OCCT to stress test for a bit? It alows you to see the maximum voltage the chip has and it should be interesting to see how high it goes. Since the chip might not be supported officially, it might adjust the voltage a tad too high.
That said i'm also concerned that you said the IHS is damaged. Is it bent inward or is it just a bit scratched?
Arclight wrote:Ok, i see that at the 72 secounds mark the CPU reached ~61 degrees Celsius and the throtle started right after at around the 85 secounds mark. Also the voltage is quite low, meaning that the chip achived the max frequency at almost .30 V from maximum recommanded for stock settings.
Arclight wrote:Something is clearly wrong in this picture, the CPU should not reach that temperature, that fast, at stock speeds and at such a low voltage.
Arclight wrote:I'd blame it on the damaged IHS and if i were you i would try to see if i can get the store that sold the chip to replace it.
Bensam123 wrote:I'm sorry to hear about your issues JBI. Could be you just got the perfect combination of memory with a cheap motherboard to make magic happen. ASrocks are pretty good low-mid grade options. I bought a higher end one for my new computer, but returned it because I wasn't impressed with it for the price (ended up buying a Asus instead). They generally have quality components on board and have a good build for the price.
GeForce6200 wrote:I called ECS today and they stated that their techs are working on this issue.
GeForce6200 wrote:ECS told me that AMD recommends to use an aftermarket cooler in order in to use 100 percent of the CPU, which is incorrect.
just brew it! wrote:GeForce6200 wrote:ECS told me that AMD recommends to use an aftermarket cooler in order in to use 100 percent of the CPU, which is incorrect.
Yup, stock cooler should be fine at stock clocks. In my experience, AMD CPUs with the stock cooler and reasonable case ventilation will run just fine, but the cooler will be frikkin' loud when the CPU is under load because the cooler will be asked to work pretty hard to keep the CPU temps within spec.
*I* recommend using an aftermarket cooler on AMD CPUs, unless you've got a GPU with a fan that is so loud it drowns out the noise of the CPU fan!
(The Cooler Master Hyper TX3 I recommended further back is nearly silent most of the time, and only tends to get loud if you peg a 125W TDP CPU in a warm room. And even then, it's still a lot quieter than the stock fan...)