Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

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Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:02 pm

So I have a CM 212 EVO HSF that is about a year old. Recently it has developed a faint chatter -- not the whine of a bearing going bad, more like a rubbing of a blade or the hub. This isn't consistent -- sometimes it goes away after a power cycle -- but this fan has always been the noisiest in the case (the only one I can actually hear). So I'm planning on replacing it before it gets really annoying. A while back in this thread flip-mode mentioned replacing the stock fan with a Noctua NF-P12. I'm wondering if anyone has done with any other fans they'd recommend -- I have nothing against the Noctua, but I'd prefer a PWM fan so that the BIOS can control it.

Incidentally, I think part of the reason I noticed this was because the fan controller running all but one of the case fans died (I was rather surprised when I opened the case and saw only one case fan spinning). This was the "stock" fan controller that comes with some Fractal Design cases (an Arc Mini). Not a big deal -- I'm not overclocking and I currently don't even have a discrete GPU in that system so the fans were overkill anyway -- but with less airflow in the case I imagine the heatsink fan was spinning at higher RPMs and thus the noise was exaggerated. And rather sad that what amounts to a pot and a few connectors couldn't last a little longer.
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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:47 pm

You definitely need one of these! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835213001

I have four of them in my case. ☆*:.。. o(≧▽≦)o .。.:*☆

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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:03 pm

Just get any low-RPM 120mm fan with a PWM header and be done with it.

If you want more reliability at the expense of noise-level, get a ball-bearing fan. Sleeve bearing fans are more quiet, but are more prone to failure.
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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:02 am

Too bad Scythe is out in USA, but there are still some available if you look hard enough.
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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:23 am

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835103069

Should be about the same....but it's 10 bucks, you can't argue with that. Buy 2 for the price of a single Noctua. Highly unlikely that none of them will work as advertised.

If you want an upgrade though, there is no way around it and you need to spend more for a Noctua or w/e. I haven't read fan reviews in a while so idk which one is the best for heatsinks at 2000 RPM or lower. Usually it's recommended to buy bigger fans (140mm) with 120mm frame but idk if the clamping mechanism of your cooler allows that.
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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:48 am

Arclight wrote:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103069
76 CFM?! (゚Д゚;)ノ Garbage!
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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:56 am

auxy wrote:
Arclight wrote:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103069
76 CFM?! (゚Д゚;)ノ Garbage!
Go Delta or go home. (◡‿◡✿)


The Delta fan you recommended would short the mobo. Not to mention that it has a thickness of 38mm which would make it incompatible with the fan retetion mechanism of the CM Hyper Evo. Sure you could improvise something, but would you trust that beast on the CPU cooler with a makeshift retention clip?
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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:30 am

auxy wrote:
Arclight wrote:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103069
76 CFM?! (゚Д゚;)ノ Garbage!
Go Delta or go home. (◡‿◡✿)

Well, San Ace also makes pretty powerful fans... Might be a lil' bit noisy, though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sioHeb4JBE&sns=em
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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:20 am

Choose one of these 120x25mm PWM fans with a top speed between 1300 and 2000 rpm.

You could get a Noctua NF-P12 PWM or NF-F12 PWM.
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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:34 am

JohnC wrote:Well, San Ace also makes pretty powerful fans... Might be a lil' bit noisy, though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sioHeb4JBE&sns=em :wink:
Hehe, not bad. That requires 36-60VDC tho; won't even spin up with 12v, lol. ┐( ̄ー ̄)┌
Arclight wrote:The Delta fan you recommended would short the mobo.
It uses 4-pin molex connector. It won't "short" the mobo anyway, because the 3pin connector only has one wire for fan monitoring.
Arclight wrote:Not to mention that it has a thickness of 38mm which would make it incompatible with the fan retention mechanism of the CM Hyper Evo.
I haven't seen the "Hyper Evo", but the Hyper212 I've used had the rubber peg type which doesn't care how thick the fan is.┐(‘~`;)┌
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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:34 am

auxy wrote:It uses 4-pin molex connector. It won't "short" the mobo anyway, because the 3pin connector only has one wire for fan monitoring.


Would you consider the ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 a good motherboard?

Well then let's have a look in the User's Manual. At page 22 it says:
Asus User Manual wrote:The CPU_FAN connector supports the CPU fan of maximum 1A (12W) fan power


Power specs for the Delta AFB1212GHE-CF00 120mm Case cooler:
newegg.com wrote:Input Current : 2.45 Amp

Input Power : 29.4 Watt


I'm not an expert but at full tilt that fan will not have enough juice. That said, i'm no electrician so idk what would happen in this situation but after googling a bit many claimed they have fried their motherboard headers because of this.

Feel free to bring arguments as to why i'm wrong.

auxy wrote:I haven't seen the "Hyper Evo", but the Hyper212 I've used had the rubber peg type which doesn't care how thick the fan is.┐(‘~`;)┌


If you haven't seen it, then please do
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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:49 am

Arclight wrote:
auxy wrote:It uses 4-pin molex connector. It won't "short" the mobo anyway, because the 3pin connector only has one wire for fan monitoring.

Would you consider the ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 a good motherboard?

Well then let's have a look in the User's Manual. At page 22 it says:
Asus User Manual wrote:The CPU_FAN connector supports the CPU fan of maximum 1A (12W) fan power

4 pin Molex. The fan in question doesn't plug into the motherboard, it connects directly to the PSU.
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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:04 am

just brew it! wrote:
Arclight wrote:
auxy wrote:It uses 4-pin molex connector. It won't "short" the mobo anyway, because the 3pin connector only has one wire for fan monitoring.

Would you consider the ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 a good motherboard?

Well then let's have a look in the User's Manual. At page 22 it says:
Asus User Manual wrote:The CPU_FAN connector supports the CPU fan of maximum 1A (12W) fan power

4 pin Molex. The fan in question doesn't plug into the motherboard, it connects directly to the PSU.


Oh, guess i feel stupid now. Fair enough, but can the fan clips of the Evo keep it in place due to the extra thickness? It also costs $30. OP didn't say much about budget but that's not exactly a cheap fan.
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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:06 am

What're ya'll talking about? OP needs one of these!
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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:27 am

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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:40 am

At some point I guess I felt like I didn't have enough fans so I bought two 4-packs of Cooler Master R4's. They're only 3-pin, so depending on your mobo it might not control the speeds all that well, but they're fairly quiet and they move as much air as my Hyper 212 Plus (which I got before the EVO came out)
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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:43 am

For a different seletion than newegg I go to Frozen CPU as they carry some brands Newegg doesn't, such as Scythe: http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g36/c36 ... o=title_az
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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:00 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:You could get a Noctua NF-P12 PWM


This is what I put on my 212 Evo. The fan that came with the 212 Evo was too loud from day 1. I'm too damn sensitive to PC noise. The NF-P12 is a great fan, though. With a little bit of fan speed control applied, it cannot be heard.
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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:52 pm

Tested just now; the fan that I suggested does fit on a Hyper212 with the plastic clips.(・∀・)I think I was thinking of a different heatsink (Xigmatek?) with the rubber peg design.

THAT SAID, it was only a HHOS ("ha-ha, only serious") suggestion, a bit tongue-in-cheek.(⌒▽⌒)It doesn't have PWM control after all, which was one of the OP's requirements. (Although with a fan that powerful, you should really be using a fan controller anyway...)

Some years ago I bought a few dozen IPCQUEEN 120mm PWM fans from Newegg with a nice bulk discount. (My brother and I have a small home business doing PC maintenance and repair). It appears they don't carry the model anymore; it's actually a ball-bearing fan and pretty cheap, too. I usually use those for customers' PCs; it's pretty quiet for a cheap fan, but the Noctuas will be quieter.
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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:18 pm

I used one of these delta screamers http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/del80ffb08123.html on my on my rig for nearly 4 years. Kept my barton XP nice and cool, but it was an extremely loud dang fan.
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Re: Replacing a fan on a 212 Evo

Postposted on Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:31 pm

Starfalcon wrote:Kept my barton XP nice and cool, but it was an extremely loud dang fan.
Hehehee! (*≧艸≦) The 120mm fans don't *seem* as loud as the old 80mm, but that's probably because the pitch is lower. They're still pretty freaking loud. ヘ(。□°)ヘ
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