Personal computing discussed
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kamikaziechameleon wrote:I bought win 8 pro for my computer and home. How does licensing work with that. Can I also install that license on my work computer like I could with windows xp through 7 or do I need a separate license??? I just know the now register it to a email don't they??? I'm confused and trying to figure this out.
Thanks in advanced.
kamikaziechameleon wrote:I bought win 8 pro for my computer and home. How does licensing work with that. Can I also install that license on my work computer like I could with windows xp through 7 or do I need a separate license??? I just know the now register it to a email don't they??? I'm confused and trying to figure this out.
Thanks in advanced.
Arvald wrote:Office Professional is one desktop and one "mobile" device (pretty much means laptop). Office Professional Plus (? pretty much the enterprise version) I don't think it has this home component. I don't think it is that different there. Home and Student though, as mentioned in various replies here, is 3 activations.Licensing for MS Office is different, from a corporate viewpoint it allows everyone licensed to run on a corporate machine and a home machine which is where the confusion may have come from.
kamikaziechameleon wrote:For Windows, it almost always has been that unless you have a VL key, any other key is bound to one computer, both physical or virtual. The recent exception has been the Family Pack thing that they did last year.So me asking if I can install it on multiple machines vs if I should is beyond the scope of the forums here isn't it??? Sorry guys.
kamikaziechameleon wrote:I've always had multiple machines and always used one license across them all, same for office. I know it was probably not in the terms but I could do it no problem. I didn't know if Win8 worked in a similar fashion or if the DRM had changed. I purchase one license for my personal use and never considered it an issue across multiple machines and I talked to Microsoft reps on the phone each subsequent install and explained and they would allow it and validate the install. Maybe I'm lucky. At any rate the price per install would be Ridiculous and I'm inclined to dis-invest from Microsoft's services if that is the way it has to be. I believe in staying current and that cost is simply too much.
kamikaziechameleon wrote:So me asking if I can install it on multiple machines vs if I should is beyond the scope of the forums here isn't it??? Sorry guys.
I've always had multiple machines and always used one license across them all, same for office. I know it was probably not in the terms but I could do it no problem.
cphite wrote:So your real question is: How do I break my license agreement? I suspect that the mods here might deem that beyond the scope of the forums
Flying Fox wrote:Arvald wrote:Office Professional is one desktop and one "mobile" device (pretty much means laptop). Office Professional Plus (? pretty much the enterprise version) I don't think it has this home component. I don't think it is that different there. Home and Student though, as mentioned in various replies here, is 3 activations.Licensing for MS Office is different, from a corporate viewpoint it allows everyone licensed to run on a corporate machine and a home machine which is where the confusion may have come from.
Arvald wrote:Most of these are not even EULA issues. On the outside of the package it says stuff like "license for one computer".
kamikaziechameleon wrote:I've never pirated, or cracked an OS. I've always payed real money for all my software. (except BluRay playback updates, but that is another story.)
Arvald wrote:Most of these are not even EULA issues. On the outside of the package it says stuff like "license for one computer".
just brew it! wrote:Arvald wrote:Most of these are not even EULA issues. On the outside of the package it says stuff like "license for one computer".
Well that's just a one-line summary of the EULA, isn't it?
Flying Fox wrote:just brew it! wrote:Arvald wrote:Most of these are not even EULA issues. On the outside of the package it says stuff like "license for one computer".
Well that's just a one-line summary of the EULA, isn't it?
Most EULAs also include statements about software provided "as is", so that if the software really does cause your house to burn down, they are in the clear. It is another topic though.
As for the OP, if you have been having luck in multiple activations of those retail, presumably single instance, keys, why not just try with Win8? They may have upgraded their activation check, but they may not. If you are buying retail, you can move the OS to the 2nd computer and retire the old one. So the worst case is you are out 1 computer. As JBI said historically the enforcement of EULAs is lax. The only significant development in the area was introduced with activations since Windows/Office XP.
Ryu Connor wrote:The Windows 8 OEM license is now transferable to a different PC.
Still one PC at a time, but it is transferable.
Link
Ryu Connor wrote:The Windows 8 OEM license is now transferable to a different PC.
Still one PC at a time, but it is transferable.
Link
dextrous wrote:This is a great change! However, it states that this applies to OEM copies bought separately from a machine. Therefore, you cannot transfer an OEM license that came with a pre-built machine. That's an important difference for anybody running across this thread.
kamikaziechameleon wrote:...I did not realize until this thread that there was any EULA conflict as I have made the active habit of ignoring them...
...I mean who reads them anyways, honestly?
just brew it! wrote:Software licensing seems to be splitting into three major divergent models:
1. Software that you buy once, and that is under per-user or per-system EULA (and which may be enforced via some form of DRM like activation).
2. Subscription based, where there's a recurring fee and some form of DRM to shut the software off if you don't pay. As we all know, MS has been moving towards this model for MS Office; it has already seen widespread use for things like EDA tools (e.g. FPGA design).
3. Open Source.
#1 used to be dominant; #2 and #3 have gained traction. The three models will probably co-exist for the foreseeable future.
dextrous wrote:Ryu Connor wrote:The Windows 8 OEM license is now transferable to a different PC.
Still one PC at a time, but it is transferable.
Link
This is a great change! However, it states that this applies to OEM copies bought separately from a machine. Therefore, you cannot transfer an OEM license that came with a pre-built machine. That's an important difference for anybody running across this thread.
kamikaziechameleon wrote:Actually the one pioneering the "walled garden", dominating, and making the most money out of it, is Apple. Microsoft is just trying to imitate. For Android, the "platform" is not really closed per se. It is if you want the Google experience then you will need to be using Google apps and 3rd party apps through the Play store. You can use a different app store altogether (with the associated risks). The base OS is indeed free, minus proprietary drivers and "customizations".What about free but closed, like Android. The android OS is free w/ unlimited installs on whatever machine because the controlled closed platform makes money of digital sales of software through their play service. Microsoft is moving in that direction with their OS and the sooner they get there the more concrete their monopoly will be once again. They will end up controlling not only the OS but also the channel through which most consumer will get their media and added software.
Arvald wrote:dextrous wrote:Ryu Connor wrote:The Windows 8 OEM license is now transferable to a different PC.
Still one PC at a time, but it is transferable.
Link
This is a great change! However, it states that this applies to OEM copies bought separately from a machine. Therefore, you cannot transfer an OEM license that came with a pre-built machine. That's an important difference for anybody running across this thread.
In the USA.
In Canada we are able to buy the OEM copy for a newly built machine that you are building yourself.
Stuff like this works differently in each country depending on the local laws.