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Voldenuit wrote:I'm more interested in the htc one myself.
4 MP camera + OIS = low light champion.
Reviews for the camera have been a bit mixed, with some sites showing better detail than the 920 in low light, and some (but not all) showing softness in bright light. User error or sample variance?
ChronoReverse wrote:Well, if you had the Razr HD, Razr Maxx or Note 2 then you'd have 2 day batteries even if you tried to wreck the battery life.
My next phone will be judged by that criteria. Most of the other things have plateaued out.
liquidsquid wrote:I would only get excited if the batter life for these dang phones would be a tad more than 10 hours, which for my S2, would be a miracle.
danny e. wrote:Voldenuit wrote:I'm more interested in the htc one myself.
4 MP camera + OIS = low light champion.
Reviews for the camera have been a bit mixed, with some sites showing better detail than the 920 in low light, and some (but not all) showing softness in bright light. User error or sample variance?
HTC ONE does look a lot nicer, for sure.
I'm not sure how I feel about a "live home screen". As long as there are options to turn off everything.. Fine, I suppose.
MadManOriginal wrote:What I'd like to see is things that aren't sexy specs but would make phones (and tablets) better in real day-to-day use. For example, better WiFi speed than single stream, better battery life although I know that's just a matter of time and depends a lot on the screen, a genuine focus on audio quality both for headphone and built-in speakers, excellent camera optics although that's a hard one due to basic physical constraints. Otherwise at this point it's more about software than hardware.
liquidsquid wrote:I would only get excited if the batter life for these dang phones would be a tad more than 10 hours, which for my S2, would be a miracle. Oh, and stop locking up, actually let me answer the phone upon a swipe, not turn on the display to let me know the battery is low, etc.
MadManOriginal wrote:New high-end cell phone launches are getting to be pretty *meh*, largely for the reason ludi gave. 5 years into the consumer smartphone explosion and the high-end has become pretty much more of the same without huge generational leaps in real-world terms any more. The growth is now in lower-end phones for developing markets as they get trickle down tech from high-end phones. What I'd like to see is things that aren't sexy specs but would make phones (and tablets) better in real day-to-day use. For example, better WiFi speed than single stream, better battery life although I know that's just a matter of time and depends a lot on the screen, a genuine focus on audio quality both for headphone and built-in speakers, excellent camera optics although that's a hard one due to basic physical constraints. Otherwise at this point it's more about software than hardware.
bluepiranha wrote:Sony's lineup became homogenized because all those "weird" phones didn't sell worth a crap.I'm also rather disappointed that form factors for smartphones have gotten so homogenized over the years. Sony's current lineup is a reflection of this. Where their 2011 lineup was more varied and more experimental (Xperia play, Xperia mini/mini pro, Xperia pro were all either small or had slider components), their phones from 2012 and beyond have been nothing more than different flavors of the same touchscreen candybar. Whether or not such homogeneity in smartphone design is a function of Apple/Samsung/HTC's popularity I'm not 100% sure.
auxy wrote:bluepiranha wrote:Sony's lineup became homogenized because all those "weird" phones didn't sell worth a crap.I'm also rather disappointed that form factors for smartphones have gotten so homogenized over the years. Sony's current lineup is a reflection of this. Where their 2011 lineup was more varied and more experimental (Xperia play, Xperia mini/mini pro, Xperia pro were all either small or had slider components), their phones from 2012 and beyond have been nothing more than different flavors of the same touchscreen candybar. Whether or not such homogeneity in smartphone design is a function of Apple/Samsung/HTC's popularity I'm not 100% sure.
Of course, that's mostly because they were crap. I had an Xperia Play and I took it back; it was awful. Still, money is the bottom line, after all, and when things don't sell, companies panic and stick to proven formulas.
bluepiranha wrote:Well, pardon my Americentrism, but I'd say that within this region, if the only released device did poorly...Except that they did sell. Only the Xperia Play was released in the US out of the phones I mentioned, and yes it was a dud compared to the expectations put on it, but the Mini and Mini Pro actually did pretty well in Europe as successors of the X10 Mini.
bluepiranha wrote:QFT. If there's one thing Apple got right, it's that the specs don't matter all that much - it's what you're able to do with the thing that counts.
I'm also rather disappointed that form factors for smartphones have gotten so homogenized over the years. Sony's current lineup is a reflection of this. Where their 2011 lineup was more varied and more experimental (Xperia play, Xperia mini/mini pro, Xperia pro were all either small or had slider components), their phones from 2012 and beyond have been nothing more than different flavors of the same touchscreen candybar. Whether or not such homogeneity in smartphone design is a function of Apple/Samsung/HTC's popularity I'm not 100% sure.
killadark wrote:what are your thoughts
trackerben wrote:killadark wrote:what are your thoughts
Samsung? Latest hardware with the latest gimmickry and last-century power profile.
Try the Lenovo P770 (3500 mAh battery, 30% more than Galaxy S4), or look at Motorola's RAZR. I just put a P770 (Jelly Bean 4.1.1) through six hours of non-media use with WLAN off but with constant dual-radio (dual-SIM), bluetooth, A-GPS, and 3G 1mbps data connections and screen at 100% (sleep 1min) and was left with 75% battery remaining. Made no more than a dozen calls and browsed for at most an hour, drove for about an hour with navigation and driving aids. It should deliver at least 8 hours of full-on usage.
bluepiranha wrote:QFT. If there's one thing Apple got right, it's that the specs don't matter all that much - it's what you're able to do with the thing that counts.
Firestarter wrote:This is me! I have CM 10.1 on my phone -- totally unsupported -- and while it's kinda glitchy due to both the crappy, nonstandard nature of Tegra2 (lacks NEON) and also from running on top of 2.3 kernel (no bootloader hack), it's still totally awesome compared to 2.3.I have CM 10.1 on my current smartphone, and as an experimental build it's just about stable enough to want the real thing, badly!
Firestarter wrote:What's a couch party? (; ̄Д ̄):lol: :nolife:That, and I was at a couch-party yesterday where the people with Galaxy S3's were constantly bitching about them.
trackerben wrote:Try the Lenovo P770 (3500 mAh battery, 30% more than Galaxy S4), or look at Motorola's RAZR.
killadark wrote:I'm not impressed by the P770's dual-core 1.2Ghz processor (is it a Rockchip?), 1GB RAM, or especially the PowerVR SGX531 graphics. Terrible! No wonder it gets great battery life. ヽ(゚◇゚ )ノNOW THAT LOOKS VERY IMPRESSIVE
auxy wrote:What's a couch party? (; ̄Д ̄):lol: :nolife:
killadark wrote:I'm not impressed by the P770's dual-core 1.2Ghz processor (is it a Rockchip?), 1GB RAM, or especially the PowerVR SGX531 graphics. Terrible! No wonder it gets great battery life. ヽ(゚◇゚ )ノNOW THAT LOOKS VERY IMPRESSIVE
I was interested briefly in the RAZR MAXX and the RAZR i, but they're both similarly boring in terms of specifications.