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derFunkenstein wrote:I kinda giggle at all the people who were "waiting for Haswell" for their next upgrade. Sure it's an engineering sample, but you'd think with all those comments that even the ES would be magically delicious or something. Small gains in general performance, solid gains in an area I couldn't possibly care less about - integrated desktop graphics. Show me the GT3 part in an affordable 15" notebook and we'll talk.
chuckula wrote:Hehe, with my delidded 3570K and lapped NH-C14 I'm "only" running 4.4Ghz, and it's still faster than I could possibly want for anything. 5Ghz, geez, I can't even imagine... :flails: ヘ(゚∀゚*)ノI think the biggest unanswered question is how well Haswell overclocks. If Intel fixes its intentionally stupid use of crappy TIM in the heatspreader, then hitting 5 Ghz shouldn't be insanely difficult and Haswell will be a very interesting chip. Additionally, there are rumors that base clock adjustments will be much easier because the cores are on a different frequency plane than the uncore. That means even non-K series parts will have some overclocking options.
auxy wrote:Hehe, with my delidded 3570K and lapped NH-C14 I'm "only" running 4.4Ghz, and it's still faster than I could possibly want for anything. 5Ghz, geez, I can't even imagine... :flails: ヘ(゚∀゚*)ノ
Waco wrote:No, I mean I can't imagine why you'd need it...You can't imagine it being essentially the same speed in normal use? :P
I've got my 2600K at 4.4 GHz and it feels no different in normal use than stock or 5.2 GHz. :lol:
derFunkenstein wrote:I kinda giggle at all the people who were "waiting for Haswell" for their next upgrade. Sure it's an engineering sample, but you'd think with all those comments that even the ES would be magically delicious or something. Small gains in general performance, solid gains in an area I couldn't possibly care less about - integrated desktop graphics. Show me the GT3 part in an affordable 15" notebook and we'll talk.
Prestige Worldwide wrote:I'm still unsure of whether I should get a 4770k or Sandy-E based quad like the i7 3820 (if I can get a good deal).... this is coming from an i5 750 @ 4GHz that I feel is not giving 670 SLI all the juice it needs to hit their full potential. They were massively cpu-bottlenecked at stock to the point where I had lower FPS with SLI enabled than running only 1 card.
derFunkenstein wrote:I kinda giggle at all the people who were "waiting for Haswell" for their next upgrade. Sure it's an engineering sample, but you'd think with all those comments that even the ES would be magically delicious or something. Small gains in general performance, solid gains in an area I couldn't possibly care less about - integrated desktop graphics. Show me the GT3 part in an affordable 15" notebook and we'll talk.
auxy wrote:Waco wrote:No, I mean I can't imagine why you'd need it...You can't imagine it being essentially the same speed in normal use?
I've got my 2600K at 4.4 GHz and it feels no different in normal use than stock or 5.2 GHz.
auxy wrote:chuckula wrote:Hehe, with my delidded 3570K and lapped NH-C14 I'm "only" running 4.4Ghz, and it's still faster than I could possibly want for anything. 5Ghz, geez, I can't even imagine... :flails: ヘ(゚∀゚*)ノI think the biggest unanswered question is how well Haswell overclocks. If Intel fixes its intentionally stupid use of crappy TIM in the heatspreader, then hitting 5 Ghz shouldn't be insanely difficult and Haswell will be a very interesting chip. Additionally, there are rumors that base clock adjustments will be much easier because the cores are on a different frequency plane than the uncore. That means even non-K series parts will have some overclocking options.
chuckula wrote:auxy wrote:chuckula wrote:Hehe, with my delidded 3570K and lapped NH-C14 I'm "only" running 4.4Ghz, and it's still faster than I could possibly want for anything. 5Ghz, geez, I can't even imagine... :flails: ヘ(゚∀゚*)ノI think the biggest unanswered question is how well Haswell overclocks. If Intel fixes its intentionally stupid use of crappy TIM in the heatspreader, then hitting 5 Ghz shouldn't be insanely difficult and Haswell will be a very interesting chip. Additionally, there are rumors that base clock adjustments will be much easier because the cores are on a different frequency plane than the uncore. That means even non-K series parts will have some overclocking options.
If I ever get into a fight, I want auxy on my side because nothing beats CRAZY in a fight! So you delidded and only OC'd to 4.4Ghz??? I know that Ivy isn't considered the greatest overclocker ever, but 4.4 GHz is still pretty easy to achieve without having to go to the trouble of delidding. Was there any other motivation for doing that, or did you just want to do it for fun?
tfp wrote:Following Intel's increasing trend of delayed releases, Haswell-E might not appear until 2016.I'd say Haswell but hey why not Haswell-E if you can wait for Ivy-E what's a little longer.
JustAnEngineer wrote:tfp wrote:Following Intel's increasing trend of delayed releases, Haswell-E might not appear until 2016.I'd say Haswell but hey why not Haswell-E if you can wait for Ivy-E what's a little longer.
Jigar wrote:BTW, i still feel my Q6600 is not that slow, but i have yet to taste Ivybridge or Haswell, so it might be just me.
BluePanda wrote:I won't believe it until I see it somewhere reputable...but chances are I won't be as impressed as made up to be.
Airmantharp wrote:Prestige Worldwide wrote:I'm still unsure of whether I should get a 4770k or Sandy-E based quad like the i7 3820 (if I can get a good deal).... this is coming from an i5 750 @ 4GHz that I feel is not giving 670 SLI all the juice it needs to hit their full potential. They were massively cpu-bottlenecked at stock to the point where I had lower FPS with SLI enabled than running only 1 card.
If you're at 1080p... good luck. But really, getting the SB-E system would be kind of silly. You're already getting twice the PCIe bandwidth with Ivy/Haswell, and significant gains in single-threaded performance. An Ivy/Haswell at 4.5GHz+ would be child's play on a decent board, and should more than sate your SLi setup in the near-term.
Prestige Worldwide wrote:I think I've decided that I'm going to go x79 and i7 3820 instead of Haswell. This is mostly due to the future upgrade path that socket 2011 is more or less guaranteeing at this point. I should be able to upgrade to a 6 / 8 / 12 core Ivy-E or Haswell-E with a clean drop-in upgrade if I ever feel the need for more power. Makes sense to me.
thecoldanddarkone wrote:I'm fairly certain haswell e will require a new mobo.