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New desktop for cousin

Postposted on Sun May 26, 2013 5:38 am

Hey guys, my cousin has enlisted my services to come up with a build for him as his sister is moving out of home and taking the PC with them:

I have come up with:

Case: CoolerMaster Elite 341 with 420W
Mobo: ASRock FM2A55M-DGS
CPU: AMD A10 5800K 4-Core Processor
RAM: Corsair CMV16GX3M2A1333C9 16GB Kit (2x8GB) DDR3
SSD: Samsung 840 Series 120GB SSD Retail Box
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB ST1000DM003
DVD: Pioneer DVR-220LBKS Black 24x DVDRW OEM
Monitor: BenQ GL2450HM 24in Widescreen LED Monitor
Keyboard/Mouse: Microsoft Wired Desktop Keyboard 600
OS: Microsoft Windows 8 64bit OEM

+ Microsoft Office 2013 home/student

I used the AMD A10 processor because it has a decent integrated graphics.

OR:

Case: CoolerMaster Elite 341 with 420W
Mobo: ASRock B75M-DGS-R2 Motherboard
CPU: Intel Core i3 3220
RAM: Corsair CMV16GX3M2A1333C9 16GB Kit (2x8GB) DDR3
SSD: Samsung 840 Series 120GB SSD Retail Box
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB ST1000DM003
DVD: Pioneer DVR-220LBKS Black 24x DVDRW OEM
Monitor: BenQ GL2450HM 24in Widescreen LED Monitor
Keyboard/Mouse: Microsoft Wired Desktop Keyboard 600
OS: Microsoft Windows 8 64bit OEM

The difference is about $10 either way.

What are your opinions? The PC will pretty much be used for youtube, pr0n and some internet games like Runescape, maybe the casual Counterstrike Source etc.
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Re: New desktop for cousin

Postposted on Sun May 26, 2013 7:41 am

AMD Damo wrote: Mobo: ASRock FM2A55M-DGS
For Trinity, look for a motherboard with 4 DIMM slots, HDMI output and the A75 or A85 chipset.
ASRock FM2A75 Pro4-M
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AMD Damo wrote: Mobo: ASRock B75M-DGS-R2 Motherboard
CPU: Intel Core i3 3220
On the Intel side, you might want to wait 2 weeks for Haswell (e.g.: Core i5-4430 or Core i5-4670K) to appear. Haswell's release with new LGA1150 motherboards may push prices down on LGA1155 motherboards, even if Ivy Bridge Core i3 processors aren't likely to get cheaper immediately. The suggestion to look for 4 DIMM slots and HDMI output stands, even if you stay with LGA1155.
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AMD Damo wrote: RAM: Corsair CMV16GX3M2A1333C9 16GB Kit (2x8GB) DDR3
You definitely want PC3-14900 (DDR3-1866) memory instead of that pokey PC3-10600 stuff that you've listed. 16 GiB is probably more than you need. 2x4 GiB would be enough to start with.

AMD Damo wrote: Monitor: BenQ GL2450HM 24in Widescreen LED Monitor
For the same price, you could get an IPS LCD monitor instead of a TN LCD.
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Re: New desktop for cousin

Postposted on Sun May 26, 2013 12:01 pm

Intel graphics are a total joke so if you're going GPU-less I would definitely get the APU. The i3 is going to be the better performing chip otherwise, so if the plan is to get a discrete GPU later I'd say wait for Haswell to launch. If nothing else it will cause a price drop on some of the older stuff.
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Re: New desktop for cousin

Postposted on Sun May 26, 2013 4:00 pm

JustAnEngineer wrote:For Trinity, look for a motherboard with 4 DIMM slots, HDMI output and the A75 or A85 chipset.
I don't agree that 4 DIMM slots is necessary; 2x8GB is enough RAM for the life of the machine. I like the Biostar Hi-Fi A85S3 motherboard, which has excellent integrated audio and a nice layout.

JustAnEngineer wrote:You definitely want PC3-14900 (DDR3-1866) memory instead of that pokey PC3-10600 stuff that you've listed. 16 GiB is probably more than you need. 2x4 GiB would be enough to start with.
I don't agree with this recommendation; DDR3-1866 all the way for sure, but buying 4GB DIMMs at this point is just folly imo.

AMD Damo wrote:Monitor: BenQ GL2450HM 24in Widescreen LED Monitor
JustAnEngineer wrote:For the same price, you could get an IPS LCD monitor instead of a TN LCD.
But the GL2450HM is the official console monitor of the MLG! Hahaha...

What an overpriced garbage display. If you want a REAL gaming monitor, get the XL2420T, or an ASUS VG248QE. If you want a nice monitor that can also game, get the IPS234V that JAE is recommending. If you want a REAL NICE monitor, get a Dell U2413 or something like a Catleap/Shimian/etc (Korean IPS.)
NovusBogus wrote:Intel graphics are a total joke so if you're going GPU-less I would definitely get the APU. The i3 is going to be the better performing chip otherwise, so if the plan is to get a discrete GPU later I'd say wait for Haswell to launch. If nothing else it will cause a price drop on some of the older stuff.
I wouldn't say Intel graphics are "a total joke" (HD 4000 with dual-channel 1866 plays UT3 acceptably in 1080p!), but if you intend to do any gaming on the machine I'd definitely get the AMD APU.
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Re: New desktop for cousin

Postposted on Fri May 31, 2013 4:40 am

If you guys want to create me a wish list, here is the site I use:

http://www.pccasegear.com

I need to allow around $40 for shipping though.

I've got a budget of $1000, including Windows 8, Microsoft Office 2013, Speakers, keyboard mouse etc, it needs to be a full computer setup.

The reason I picked that TN monitor was its the cheapest 24" LCD monitor getting around.
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Re: New desktop for cousin

Postposted on Fri May 31, 2013 5:51 am

How about these components?

A$139 AMD A10-5800K APU
A$89 ASRock FM2A85X Extreme4-M
A$79 2x4 GiB PC3-14900 G.Skill F3-14900CL9D-8GBXL (DDR3-1866, CAS 9, 1.5 V)
or A$149 2x8 GiB PC3-14900 Corsair CMZ16GX3M2A1866C9 (DDR3-1866, CAS 9, 1.5 V)

$0 Integrated Radeon HD 7660D APU graphics

A$109 0.120 TB Samsung 840 SSD
A$69 1.0 TB Seagate ST1000DM003
or A$95 2.0 TB Seagate ST2000DM001
A$19 LG GH24NS90 DVD-RW
or A$59 LG CH12LS28 BDROM/DVD-RW
optional A$35 USB3 card reader

A$65 CoolerMaster Elite 341 micro-ATX case w/ 420W PSU

A$99 Microsoft Windows 8 64-bit OEM
$0 LibreOffice
or A$129 Microsoft Office 2013 Home & Student

A$36 Logitech G400 mouse
and A$19 Logitech K200 media keyboard
or A$39 Logitech G100 gaming keyboard+mouse

A$25 Logitech LS21 speakers

A$185 23" LG 1920x1080 IPS LCD
or A$159 21½" LG 1920x1080 IPS LCD
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A$933 + shipping
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Re: New desktop for cousin

Postposted on Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:38 am

TN LCD discussion has been spun off into its own thread.
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=88225

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