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silentvoices wrote:... but let results speak for themselves
Intel only cherry picked a few engineering samples to base there initial reviews on.There are a few retail cpu's that will follow suite.
silentvoices wrote:For years, stupid PC hardware sites have maintained that CPUs have little impact on gaming performance [...] but the FPS metric doesn't tell the whole story. Examining individual frame latencies better exposes the brief moments of stuttering that can disrupt otherwise smooth gameplay.
The majority of games are going to be limited by your GPU.
Flying Fox wrote:I have re-read the (modified) original post and there does not seem to be any real inquiry asking for help in picking a CPU. Unless we have a specific set of use cases that we can debate on which CPU is better, please stop the flamewars or else the lock hammer will be dropped.
So what is the topic here? Picking FX-8xxx or FX-6xxx or FX-4xxx? FX vs A series? What is the use case, games, Office apps, Photoshop, or what?
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morphine wrote:silentvoices wrote:... but let results speak for themselves
Did you bother reading TR's review at all? You even got linked the value graphs on the last page in the thread. There's no opinion there, just fact. I mean, if you have to go AMD for one reason or other, by all means, but for 99% of people, in the current generation of desktop (and most mobile) CPUs, Intel is the best choice.Intel only cherry picked a few engineering samples to base there initial reviews on.There are a few retail cpu's that will follow suite.
Really?
Prestige Worldwide wrote:Son, you be trollin'.
silentvoices wrote:How much difference is there between a 140 dollar board vs 200 dollar board for Intel ?
silentvoices wrote:How much difference is there between a 140 dollar board vs 200 dollar board for Intel ?
morphine wrote:silentvoices wrote:How much difference is there between a 140 dollar board vs 200 dollar board for Intel ?
$60.
Seriously, they all have extra features like perhaps extra network controllers, integrated wireless, extra SATA ports, etc. Some have fancy cooling arrangements though that's mostly a moot point these days as long as you're not going for 100Ghz overclocks.
Flying Fox wrote:One difference that some people will look at is the use of Intel's GbE chip on the more expensive models. Although one might argue that you can just grab a discrete Intel NIC for under $40 (may be <$30 on sale).
just brew it! wrote:Also, although Realtek had a (justifiable!) lousy reputation in the past, they're actually not bad these days. Their NICs and audio codecs are both reasonable now.
Flying Fox wrote:just brew it! wrote:Also, although Realtek had a (justifiable!) lousy reputation in the past, they're actually not bad these days. Their NICs and audio codecs are both reasonable now.
I second that opinion. I am not benchmarking CPU utilization, latencies, and a few tenths of MB/s in transfer rates. I don't think I notice a difference. Besides, the Realteks usually have good out-of-box support from Windows, which most of time means I don't even need to get Realtek's drivers just to get up and running.
just brew it! wrote:DPete27 wrote:just brew it! wrote:Off-topic: Most people put a space after the period at the end of a sentence.
2 spaces actually.
Not any more. Most style guides now recommend against it.
vargis14 wrote:To the OP, If you think a Intel or 8350 cpu upgrade is going to change your frame latencies I think you are going to be dissapointed.
I would first upgrade your GPU to a 770 with its 256 memory bus and high memory bandwidth, you would be jumping up over the 660 ti, 670, 680, to the 770 that is a 680 with more memory bandwidth and core speed. So you would be basically jumping 3.5 steps up from the nvidia ladder.
I would try that before a whole new platform.
silentvoices wrote:I have always used separate sound and nic card option to put less stress on the motherboard.
just brew it! wrote:silentvoices wrote:I have always used separate sound and nic card option to put less stress on the motherboard.
???
There are legitimate reasons to use discrete NIC and audio, but "less stress on the motherboard" isn't one of them.
silentvoices wrote:At this point, maybe you should just order something pre-built.I don't plan on changing now.
JustAnEngineer wrote:Buying a separate NIC is foolish and wasteful. It's not going to work any better than the Intel I217-V on a motherboard with the Lynx Point chipset.
You're just not going to build a single-GPU gaming system with a Haswell processor that needs a 1200 watt power supply. Even with a power-hungry Sandy Bridge-E processor and a Titan graphics card, you might need 500 watts.
http://techreport.com/review/24996/nvid ... reviewed/9
Have you even read the system guide?
http://techreport.com/review/24979/tr-s ... stem-guidesilentvoices wrote:At this point, maybe you should just order something pre-built.I don't plan on changing now.
vargis14 wrote:I googled the 770 and saw that 42 amps on the 12 volt rail.