Personal computing discussed
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Flying Fox wrote:Your "issue" is not new. All I can say is that you have been lucky to be getting the so-called "juicy" WUs so your ppd was good. WUs come in batches and there are bound to be ones that don't get you much points. Some people have the habit of ditching those and wait until assignment servers to give them better ones. IMO that is against the spirit of the science. Yes, points is one way to entice people to donate their computing cycles, but in the end, it should be about the science and the philanthropic aspect of the effort. And yes, summer is here and it does seem not worth the ROI.
BIF wrote:With a 3 day internet outage, did you miss any return times or completely lose any work units? If you did, this can affect the type of work you receive. Maybe you're "on probation"...
This project (p8702) is set for 197.00 points, a preferred deadline of 3.60 days, and a final deadline 7.90 days. This project uses the GRO-A4 FAH core software and is hosted by Folding@home server 171.67.108.35.
This project (p8074) is set for 3874.00 points, a preferred deadline of 10.43 days, and a final deadline 13.41 days. This project uses the OPENMMGPU FAH core software and is hosted by Folding@home server 171.67.108.36.
Khali wrote:Here is a excellent example of what I am talking about.
This job is running on my CPU. With 44% completed and a estimate of 2 hours and 8 minutes to go.This project (p8702) is set for 197.00 points, a preferred deadline of 3.60 days, and a final deadline 7.90 days. This project uses the GRO-A4 FAH core software and is hosted by Folding@home server 171.67.108.35.
I have this one running on my GPU. With 7% completed and a estimate of 2 hours 51 minutes to go.This project (p8074) is set for 3874.00 points, a preferred deadline of 10.43 days, and a final deadline 13.41 days. This project uses the OPENMMGPU FAH core software and is hosted by Folding@home server 171.67.108.36.
The first job is larger and will have significantly smaller reward. Something is just screwy here.
just brew it! wrote:Also keep in mind that you're running a high-end GPU and a mid-range CPU, so you're comparing apples and oranges.
Flying Fox wrote:Take the good with the bad. You are not the only one that whines about this in various forums. Ditch it if you really are after the points, though the science will suffer.
Of course, ditching enough of these you will be wasting valuable time as well.
Khali wrote:I am just trying to understand the logic used on what a wu is worth. What I am seeing just does not make sense to me. I have no intention to stop folding and I have never ditched a wu on purpose and don't plan to start. In the end the points do not mean a thing as long as the program actually leads to some cures or better treatment of the various diseases they are studying.
Khali wrote:This job is running on my CPU. With 44% completed and a estimate of 2 hours and 8 minutes to go.This project (p8702) is set for 197.00 points, a preferred deadline of 3.60 days, and a final deadline 7.90 days. This project uses the GRO-A4 FAH core software and is hosted by Folding@home server 171.67.108.35.
Khali wrote:I have this one running on my GPU. With 7% completed and a estimate of 2 hours 51 minutes to go.This project (p8074) is set for 3874.00 points, a preferred deadline of 10.43 days, and a final deadline 13.41 days. This project uses the OPENMMGPU FAH core software and is hosted by Folding@home server 171.67.108.36.
I can't find a calculator for this WU, do you have the ppd projection from your client for this? Is it like 100K ppd?
Khali wrote:That's why I still prefer the Gromacs WUs for my i7-875K. A lot of A4 WUs choked on it IIRC.CPU wu, Base Credit 197, Estimated Credit 1214, PPD 7698.
GPU wu, Base Credit 3874, Estimated Credit 3784, PPD 30708
Khali wrote:Don't worry. Been there, done that. There exists some projects that don't make sense though. You just need to hope that it is done and then you will get better luck receiving a juicier WU next time.At this point it appears to complex for me to totally understand. There are so many variables to take into account, different cpu's and gpu's, overclocking, and such that it has to be the way it is. My question was more of curiosity than a rant about the point system as is. At this point I am ready to just call it magic and go with the flow.