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PenGun wrote:KDE is a horrible thing. Avoid it.
ronch wrote:Hi, Gerbils. I'm out for a POS system these days and I've come across LemonPOS. Not sure if it's any good so I'm trying it.
Flatland_Spider wrote:LemonPOS requires KDE because Qt is the GUI toolkit that it uses.
Flatland_Spider wrote:As JBI said, setup a 16-32GB dynamic disk while you get your feet under you and figure out what you'll actually need as far as resources go. Here is how I would setup the partitions with a 24.5GB disk.
/ -> 20 GB
swap - > 0.5 GB (You shouldn't be swapping, and this thing isn't going to hibernate.)
/home -> 4 GB
Flatland_Spider wrote:To save space, you're better off switching to the KDE as the desktop environment, and you'd be better served by switching to OpenSUSE if you're going to be using KDE. OpenSUSE has one of the top, if not the best, KDE implementations
Losergamer04 wrote:Though KDE is "worse" than most other desktop environments in resource usage, it's not like an even remotely modern computer should have too many issues with it.
Losergamer04 wrote:I know a few people that prefer it.
Losergamer04 wrote:Unity is even "worse," but it's what converted my wife. Personally, I'm a Unity and XFCE person.
Losergamer04 wrote:There is a lot of KDE bashing going on here. But if you like it, and it works, use it.
Losergamer04 wrote:Flatland_Spider wrote:To save space, you're better off switching to the KDE as the desktop environment, and you'd be better served by switching to OpenSUSE if you're going to be using KDE. OpenSUSE has one of the top, if not the best, KDE implementations
I've not used Suse much (RH and Ubuntu is what I'm familiar with), but doesn't Suse offer better Windows/mixed environment tools, too?
Though KDE is "worse" than most other desktop environments in resource usage, it's not like an even remotely modern computer should have too many issues with it. I know a few people that prefer it. Unity is even "worse," but it's what converted my wife. Personally, I'm a Unity and XFCE person. There is a lot of KDE bashing going on here. But if you like it, and it works, use it.
A bit of searching shows Fedora has a LemonPOS package available, too, if you feel like going the Fedora route.
Flatland_Spider wrote:I don't recommend running Fedora on production systems. It's a nice desktop, and it's what I normally run. However, it's not built for the long run. The 18 month support cycle is too short, and things can change quite a bit between releases at times.
just brew it! wrote:Unity isn't that bad on resource usage (which is what I was bitching about), but it can be pretty annoying if you're accustomed to a "traditional" desktop (Windows XP/Vista/7, GNOME, KDE).
PenGun wrote:/etc is nothing at all like the awful windose registry. It is simply where configuration is handled in all it's incredible variety.
just brew it! wrote:The point I was trying to make is that it is where most system configuration information is stored, and it is organized hierarchically with subtrees of information for specific subsystems. In that sense, it serves largely the same purpose as the registry.
Losergamer04 wrote:I like Ubuntu and all, but their distro isn't supported by a lot of money, unlike Red Hat (Fedora) or Suse (OpenSuse).
PenGun wrote:What is this "support" you speak of. I have no experience with this concept. It's probably a windose thing.
PenGun wrote:With Ubuntu and a plethora of user friendly distributions I have hard evidence that Linux is being dumbed down. Because of this Linux is less useful as a way to learn about *nix" and computers in general. Since I see things like "oh that didst is not updated often enough so it must be insecure" on a regular basis I conclude no one is learning much.
PenGun wrote:Because of all this I care not at all if anyone uses or does not use Linux. It's for people who want to learn some things so "support" is not anything I care about.
PenGun wrote:Favors? Huh? You think you may be talking to some one who cares about Linux advocacy?
PenGun wrote:I'm the user hostile guy remember? I did once try to get support for Big Electric Cat many years ago. That experience taught me there is no support. So I have relied on myself and lo, I am support around here. Partly because of this I took up Linux when NT 4 came out and have happily, with the help of many people on forums etc, solved all the problems that have beset me.
PenGun wrote:ith Ubuntu and a plethora of user friendly distributions I have hard evidence that Linux is being dumbed down. Because of this Linux is less useful as a way to learn about *nix" and computers in general. Since I see things like "oh that didst is not updated often enough so it must be insecure" on a regular basis I conclude no one is learning much.
PenGun wrote:Because of all this I care not at all if anyone uses or does not use Linux. It's for people who want to learn some things so "support" is not anything I care about.
PenGun wrote:You misunderstand. I am happy for anyone to do what they want with Linux. As with windose I will mock lameness if I feel like it. When you have something that's dumb to the core, use it for your stupid work. The dumification of Linux is a shame though. Like hooking up a thoroughbred to a cart. Go ahead but I don't have to like it.
You want me to leave windows alone because it's used by a lot of people? It richly deserves most of the scorn directed it's way. As Linux becomes more like it and grows up I'm sure it will deserve lots of it's own. Nothing like users to ruin everything good, clean and elegant. Look what happened to FreeBSD, it turned into OS X, a real horror story.
PenGun wrote:You misunderstand. I am happy for anyone to do what they want with Linux. As with windose I will mock lameness if I feel like it. When you have something that's dumb to the core, use it for your stupid work. The dumification of Linux is a shame though. Like hooking up a thoroughbred to a cart. Go ahead but I don't have to like it.
PenGun wrote:You want me to leave windows alone because it's used by a lot of people? It richly deserves most of the scorn directed it's way. As Linux becomes more like it and grows up I'm sure it will deserve lots of it's own. Nothing like users to ruin everything good, clean and elegant. Look what happened to FreeBSD, it turned into OS X, a real horror story.
PenGun wrote:With Linux and a plethora of user friendly distributions I have hard evidence that Unix is being dumbed down. Because of this Unix is less useful as a way to learn about *nix" and computers in general.
Since I see things like "oh that didst is not updated often enough so it must be insecure" on a regular basis I conclude no one is learning much.
PenGun wrote:Look what happened to FreeBSD, it turned into OS X, a real horror story.
Flatland_Spider wrote:Admittedly, the Mac guys won a few too many battles really neutered OS X's Unix credentials.