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sircharles32 wrote:It seems as it is based on how the drives are packed.
Most of the low reviews come from OEM drives. Retail boxed drives have significantly better reviews.
Newegg packaging is horrible. If you want drives to make it to your front door, you need to buy retail (when purchasing from Newegg).
If you buy OEM (especially from Newegg), you're rolling the dice on how diligent your packer was, which greatly increases the likely hood of "dead on arrival" drives.
just brew it! wrote:From a statistical perspective Newegg reviews are horrible. People who have problems are much more likely to post.
Disgruntled consumers more likely to post online when they feel they have been wronged. Anonymity provides security blanket for ranters. More at 11:00
Ryu Connor wrote:I feel like there's a lack of appreciation for how modern storage technology (HDD and SSD) are a non-trivial engineering design.
Complexity begets fragility.
End User wrote:I've never had a HDD fail (touch wood). I'm currently running 20 HDDs spread across NAS, NAS expansion unit, RAID enclosure, backup rig and ESXi server. The bulk of them are Reds and Greens.
maxxcool wrote:two blues, 1 green and 2 blacks all have died in the recent years in my media box, main box and a backup box.. in the last 2 years. simply terrible from WD.
End User wrote:I've never had a HDD fail (touch wood). I'm currently running 20 HDDs spread across NAS, NAS expansion unit, RAID enclosure, backup rig and ESXi server. The bulk of them are Reds and Greens.
Aranarth wrote:End User wrote:I've never had a HDD fail (touch wood). I'm currently running 20 HDDs spread across NAS, NAS expansion unit, RAID enclosure, backup rig and ESXi server. The bulk of them are Reds and Greens.
(Voice of doom) YOUR TIME IS COMING! (evil laugh)
just brew it! wrote:maxxcool wrote:two blues, 1 green and 2 blacks all have died in the recent years in my media box, main box and a backup box.. in the last 2 years. simply terrible from WD.
Well, if we're going to post anecdotal experiences...
Between my work and home systems (2 servers and 4 desktops), I currently have the following drives spinning:
2x WD Black
2x WD Green
5x WD Blue
4x Seagate 7200.12
1x Seagate 7200.11
2x Seagate 7200.10
4x Hitachi Deskstar
Physical age of these drives ranges from approximately 1 year up to about 5 years. All have logged at least 8 months of power on time, with some approaching the 5 year mark (i.e. continuous use in a server since original installation).
In the past few years, the only drive failures I've had across all of these systems have been a couple of Seagate 7200.11s. I definitely wouldn't trust the lone remaining 7200.11 with anything important!
With the exception of the Greens (which spent part of their life in external enclosures), all drives are in systems with well-ventilated cases and UPSes.
So based on a sample size of 22, across multiple brands and models, I've had a 9% failure rate over the past few years... and *all* of that was due to Seagate 7200.11 drives.
axeman wrote:Do you live in an area with frequent power surges or outages? That seems to be very high rate of failure no matter what brand. How many drives do you run?
axeman wrote:Then again, everyone's experience is different - a fellow I work with has had a 7200.11 that's going 24x7 on torrents for years. He doesn't dispute these drives have a bad reputation, but he obviously got a good one.
just brew it! wrote:sircharles32 wrote:Newegg packaging is horrible.
all of the drives I've received from Newegg in the past year or so have been packed reasonably.
just brew it! wrote:(Heh, at this point I guess I should be leery of it because it may be getting close to dying of old age, not because it is a 7200.11!)
just brew it! wrote:Yeah, some sort of power issue is a possibility. As I mentioned above, I put my systems on UPSes; and my experience is close to 180 degrees opposite of his
dmjifn wrote:Interestly. When I stopped buying drives from Newegg, they were still sending the bare drive in a plastic clamshell held together by tape, rattling around inside a much larger cardboard box. By clamshell, I mean something like a berry container, not something with any shock protection. Are you saying Newegg's current packaging secures the drive and provides shock protection?
Deanjo wrote:just brew it! wrote:(Heh, at this point I guess I should be leery of it because it may be getting close to dying of old age, not because it is a 7200.11!)
Bah... My Diamond Max 10's have been going 24/7 for close to 8 and half years and still going strong. (Although looking at the powered on hours in SMART makes me giggle).
Krogoth wrote:IMO, I think the drop of reliability started with the jump to perpendicular recording.