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Ari Atari wrote:I currently have a 1090T at 4ghz and many of the games that I have been playing have been bottlenecked by a single core. Looking at Haswell, the 4670k at about 4.8ghz leads to about a 40% increase in single threaded performance which may be better, but would cost about $400 for the upgrade with mobo. As for a drop in upgrade, I don't think its worth it. The 1090T does very well in multithreaded applications and from what I understand the FX-8320 will have the same downfalls as your 1090T.
I guess it comes down to this: is it worth $145 to install this new processor, spend the time overclocking it, only to potentially get a small increase of performance? If it is, then go for it.
Great_Big_Abyss wrote:Why would an 8350 perform better than a 4770K? Same number of threads, higher IPC on the 4770K...I'm not sure how better performance out of the 8350 is possible...unless applications better leverage the 8350's L2 cache...
Star Brood wrote:You may want to pass on this current deal - even a Sandy Bridge i5 quad core model will perform substantially better for current games. As a poster above me said, when the XBone and the PS4 release, multi-threading may be a lot more prevalent, but I'll believe it when I see it. Additionally, games that are bottlenecked by single-threaded performance, like StarCraft 2, will scream on the i5 and do just OK on any AMD processor.
Geonerd wrote:Used 1090Ts are going for $130 ~ $160.
Bensam123 wrote:8320 and 8350s actually sell close to their Newegg value on eBay as well for some reason (new or used). I thought there would be surplus there with all the AMD hate, but it appears like everyone who owns or wants a AMD chip doesn't seem to care.
just brew it! wrote:Geonerd wrote:Used 1090Ts are going for $130 ~ $160.
Wow, those have held their value quite well for a CPU chip; that's close to what I paid for a new one around 2 years ago. I guess there must still be demand for these from people trying to squeeze the last bit of performance out of their aging AM2+/AM3 systems.
Geonerd wrote:Yea. It's hard to judge how deep this demand might be, but I wonder if it would be worth hiring TSMC to crank out a few wafers.
Geonerd wrote:It's all been downhill since January 8, 2011, when I ordered a Core i7-2600K. I bought a Llano A8-3850 in mid-2011, but I probably would have done just as well with a Core i3-2105. In the 32 months since Sandy Bridge arrived, Intel hasn't advanced performance very much or cut prices at all, but what has AMD done to compete?...discouraging (and pissing off) the large installed base of AM3+ users, many of which will consider jumping ship to an i7 platform, if they haven't already.
JustAnEngineer wrote:Geonerd wrote:...discouraging (and pissing off) the large installed base of AM3+ users, many of which will consider jumping ship to an i7 platform, if they haven't already.
It's all been downhill since January 8, 2011.
I bought a Llano A8-3850 in mid-2011, but I probably would have done just as well with a Core i3-2105.
Ari Atari wrote:Yes, AAA games have multithreaded support, as I can get about 100 FPS in Battlefield 3 and Black Ops 2 but barely 60 in KSP or Minecraft. I do have a 120hz monitor, so the extra frames don't go to waste.
just brew it! wrote:JustAnEngineer wrote:Geonerd wrote:...discouraging (and pissing off) the large installed base of AM3+ users, many of which will consider jumping ship to an i7 platform, if they haven't already.
It's all been downhill since January 8, 2011.
I bought a Llano A8-3850 in mid-2011, but I probably would have done just as well with a Core i3-2105.
Even if Steamroller came out tomorrow, it would be too little, too late (again) for them to claw back the market share they've lost over the past few years. All signs are that they realize this, and have effectively thrown in the towel as far as the high-end desktop market is concerned.
Geonerd wrote:After that, what is there? What AMD products are a mid-range gamer supposed to buy? FX is fine for now, if you're one of the few that don't mind buying into a (presumably) dead-end platform, but how long will it take socket FMx to acquire 'proper' memory bandwidth? It seems to me that there is an imminent gap (and a perceived commitment gap) that only Steamroller/AM3+ can fill.
Bensam123 wrote:We may end up in a scenario where a 8350 is equal or better then a 4770k in games if they become better multithreaded (like BF3).