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2x4 wrote:can some one advise an idiot proof set up record a guitar using adobe audition? i tried all inputs on my sound card but all i get is very compressed sound and tiny, micro delay. whats the best way to analog record sound coming from a line 6 amp via direct output and auzentech prelude? i want to be able to reproduce the amps sound and be able to listen to what im playing on computers speakers. any help is greatly appreciated.
just brew it! wrote:What exactly do you mean by "very compressed sound"? Clipped/distorted? How are you connecting the amp to the soundcard (i.e. what output from the amp, and what input to the soundcard)? If the amp has a speaker out only (no line level out), you will need to use some sort of dummy load to avoid overloading (or even potentially damaging... hopefully you haven't done that already!) the input to the soundcard.
To minimize the delay you need to use ASIO-compatible drivers for the soundcard.
drsauced wrote:2x4 wrote:can some one advise an idiot proof set up record a guitar using adobe audition? i tried all inputs on my sound card but all i get is very compressed sound and tiny, micro delay. whats the best way to analog record sound coming from a line 6 amp via direct output and auzentech prelude? i want to be able to reproduce the amps sound and be able to listen to what im playing on computers speakers. any help is greatly appreciated.
A couple of things, really. Few things can be idiot proof; they're too inventive. I would give Audacity a try just to record inputs and make sure levels are OK. To record the 'analog sound' of your amp, you're going to need a microphone. The best way to do that is with a mixer. You should be using a mixer anyway. Using a sound card, you are recording the line level output of the amp (unless your amp uses the headphone output), which omits the room sound at the very least, but you'll be messing around all day to set the levels correctly with the Prelude's line-in. Mixer is the way to go. Second thing, the Auzentech Prelude has ASIO drivers, but you can also use ASIO4ALL if you want to try something different. Thirdly, I question why you find 'micro delay' anything to worry about since you can edit that out anyway, unless it's en performance.
morphine wrote:Please post the exact model of your Line6 amp so I can guide you to where to connect things
It's a modelling amp, so chances are that you're pulling the actual amp-before-cabinet (or after cabinet but before mic) sound.
To the rest of the guys: in modelling gear, if you're recording from it, you usually have outputs that have cabinet and mic emulation. Signal chain, brackets denoting modelling (emulation):
(while playing)
Guitar-> [ amp ] -> [ cabinet ] -> ears
(while recording)
Guitar-> [ amp ] -> [ cabinet ] -> [ microphone ] -> ears
morphine wrote:Use the Direct Output jack on the back of the amp. Connect it with a regular cable (NOT A GUITAR CABLE) to your Auzentech Prelude, to the LINE input (not the mic input). You're going to need a 1/4"-to-minijack adapter or vice-versa, depending on the cable you have. Also make sure to use the Direct Out, not the Speaker Outs, unless you enjoy sparks and burn electronics.
Chances are that you mistakenly connected it to the mic input on the soundcard (been there, done that), that would be why it's compressed, clipping, etc. Make sure that the line input is selected as your recording source.
morphine wrote:a) Install the Prelude's ASIO drivers if you haven't done so already. Or if there's no such explicit option, update to the latest driver pack.
b) In Audition's preferences, tell it that you want to use ASIO for input. At this point, don't mess with the buffers yet - expect some latency. Check that the sound is okay. Note: ASIO mode usually cuts out everything else playing on the machine, since often it works in exclusive mode. This is a Good Thing (tm).
c) After verifying that it's at least working, start pulling the buffers down to decrease latency, but until you get crackling sound. There's a limit here, that's usually related to the drivers and your CPU, more the former than the latter. Take this process very slowly, and use a clean guitar sound as using a high-gain sound might mask crackling if you're doing short test runs.
2x4 wrote:why is the sound recording got so mixed up? like i said before, back in the xp days, id just plug and play, no latency, no delay...
2x4 wrote:got it all working. so far so good. but as far as point C - where do i find buffer adjustment?
why is the sound recording got so mixed up? like i said before, back in the xp days, id just plug and play, no latency, no delay...
2x4 wrote:another question i have is - how would the onboard sound from my mobo (in sig) work here?
2x4 wrote:another question i have is - how would the onboard sound from my mobo (in sig) work here?
Captain Ned wrote:2x4 wrote:another question i have is - how would the onboard sound from my mobo (in sig) work here?
Since Vista/7 moved all audio processing to the CPU, the quality and low latency of any sound card or onboard mobo sound chip will be determined by the ASIO drivers.
Prestige Worldwide wrote:When noise isn't an issue, I just plug in to my Mid 90's Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier and blast music from my PC. But for tracking guitars without having to worry about noise, mic placement, etc.... I want to get a 2i2.
morphine wrote:derFunk, how low did you manage to get your Focusrite's latency?
Prestige Worldwide wrote:Because the Dual Rec only has 2 volume settings: Loud and Louder.
Prestige Worldwide wrote:While I haven't used one yet, I am seriously considering getting a focusrite 2i2.
Would work well as a DI with Amplitube or Guitar Rig with the right preset. I have been trying Amplitube with the RockSmith USB cable and it's been pretty awful. However, I have heard some really good sounding clips on youtube with Amplitube and a similar USB interface so I'm going to try the 2i2 and see how it goes.
Prestige Worldwide wrote:I suppose I could use a pitch shifter to compensate, but ain't nobody got time fo' dat...
Prestige Worldwide wrote:EDIT: I was also considering getting a Mackie Blackjack, but the googles tells me their driver support is bad.
morphine wrote:Prestige Worldwide wrote:I suppose I could use a pitch shifter to compensate, but ain't nobody got time fo' dat...
A capo, say, oh the, huh... 20th fret or so. Heh.Prestige Worldwide wrote:EDIT: I was also considering getting a Mackie Blackjack, but the googles tells me their driver support is bad.
Having deal with this same dilemma, unless you want to heavily manipulate sound and do tons of recordings with wildly different tones and many effects, just go hardware with a decent modeler (Line6, Digitech, etc). Easier in the long run, IMO.
morphine wrote:Prestige Worldwide wrote:Because the Dual Rec only has 2 volume settings: Loud and Louder.
Thanks the whole point! (I understand the reasons).
If I were in the states I'd totally buy that thing off you. Especially given that it's a mid 90's model.