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Ryu Connor wrote:There are some i3 CPUs that support ECC, that is totally true. Core i3-330E, i3-2115C, i3-2310E, i3-2340UE, i3-3115C, i3-3120ME, i3-3217UE, i3-4100E, and i3-4102E. The following chips all have something in common, they're all soldered to the motherboard. (In the disclosure of pedantry apparently old Nehalem based i3 chips could do it under very specific conditions.)
moridinga wrote:Ryu Connor wrote:There are some i3 CPUs that support ECC, that is totally true. Core i3-330E, i3-2115C, i3-2310E, i3-2340UE, i3-3115C, i3-3120ME, i3-3217UE, i3-4100E, and i3-4102E. The following chips all have something in common, they're all soldered to the motherboard. (In the disclosure of pedantry apparently old Nehalem based i3 chips could do it under very specific conditions.)
All i3 parts support ECC memory. It is not a mistake in the ARK. The wikipedia article is incomplete/wrong. The FreeNAS community knows this and those guys have been using this fact for a long time. I'm building my own Mini-ITX C226 based NAS system with 6x3TB WD Red drives with 16 GB of ECC DDR3 and an i3-4340. 12 TB in RaidZ2 FTW.
Deanjo wrote:I wouldn't say all i3's support ECC. None of the Haswell i3's do.
moridinga wrote:Deanjo wrote:I wouldn't say all i3's support ECC. None of the Haswell i3's do.
Unless the ARK is wrong, Haswell i3's do.
http://ark.intel.com/compare/77481,77770,77771,75463
Ryu Connor wrote:Yeah, I just noticed every entry in the Ark repeats it. Looks like you have to pair it with a server chipset. Motherboard should end up more expensive than the CPU.
Welch wrote:So there are some slim pickings for the C222 chipsets. Some SuperMicro/ASRock and Asus motherboards. But I'm noticing that for instance on the P9D-X, it states that integrated graphics on the E3-12xx v3 Xeons (1245 in this case as an example) are not supported. So why would you include a VGA port on the back if all of the chips that have IGP aren't supported for their IGP?
The P9D-X would be ideal if I could use the IGP so as not to spend more money on discrete graphics and need to find one without a fan to avoid having a dead fan in a server. Seems silly, but its one of those things that I feel probably work fine, but isn't "officially" supported. Any insight into the Xeon E3 V3 series IGP use on C222/C224?
Mentawl wrote:Welch wrote:So there are some slim pickings for the C222 chipsets. Some SuperMicro/ASRock and Asus motherboards. But I'm noticing that for instance on the P9D-X, it states that integrated graphics on the E3-12xx v3 Xeons (1245 in this case as an example) are not supported. So why would you include a VGA port on the back if all of the chips that have IGP aren't supported for their IGP?
The P9D-X would be ideal if I could use the IGP so as not to spend more money on discrete graphics and need to find one without a fan to avoid having a dead fan in a server. Seems silly, but its one of those things that I feel probably work fine, but isn't "officially" supported. Any insight into the Xeon E3 V3 series IGP use on C222/C224?
The P9D-X actually has its "own" GPU onboard, rather than using the CPU's IGP - the back panel/front panel VGA are hooked up to the "Aspeed AST1300 with 64MB VRAM" rather than to the CPU IGP. Not sure of the reasoning behind it, other than these are server boards and as such you *never* want a discrete GPU, hence the inclusion of a basic GPU rather than having to limit it to just Xeon CPUs with IGPs.
just brew it! wrote:If cost is a concern, you could still go with a Socket AM3+ board and an FX-x3xx and get your ECC support. An Asus M5A97 R2.0 motherboard is only 95 bucks.
Bauxite wrote:The worst thing about ECC support for the last decade or so? Confirming it is actually working.
Welch wrote:Nowadays, short of the chipset/software it doesn't seem like motherboards for servers are that much more reliable as they are made with much of the same parts.
Mentawl wrote:other than these are server boards and as such you *never* want a discrete GPU,
Ryu Connor wrote:Bauxite wrote:The worst thing about ECC support for the last decade or so? Confirming it is actually working.
Windows can tell you.
Welch wrote:The P9D-X actually has its "own" GPU onboard, rather than using the CPU's IGP - the back panel/front panel VGA are hooked up to the "Aspeed AST1300 with 64MB VRAM" rather than to the CPU IGP. Not sure of the reasoning behind it, other than these are server boards and as such you *never* want a discrete GPU, hence the inclusion of a basic GPU rather than having to limit it to just Xeon CPUs with IGPs.